[Official Petition] Let new TT be a new map by itself.

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Big Daddy 1 Ton

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11-12-2012

Signed! bring back the GOOD twisted treeline ... not this new ****


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King of Onions

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11-12-2012

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Originally Posted by Volibar View Post
Hi all, just wanted to drop by and say a few things. To start off, we certainly have been reading this thread and watching it over the past few weeks. I haven't been posting here because I wanted to see the overall sentiment from around the community about the new Twisted Treeline after people have had a chance to play it and experience it for themselves in a meaningful way.

I've also addressed some of TT topics on our Reddit AMA we did a few days ago, but I'm happy to discuss here as well

When we started looking at Twisted Treeline really intensely earlier this year (around the start of 2011), there were many issues that the community had identified. Among the worst were turtling, the meta being pretty stale, and there were a pretty big number of exploits that had way too much of an effect on the game. (You probably already know this, though.)

So, when we sat down to try and solve the problems, the solution space we started in was small - can we make a few simple changes here or there? What if we make a few item changes, etc.? Those helped, but ultimately we started expanding what we tried, but at the same time we were seeing better resolution to those problems. We adjusted the layout, sometimes making small changes, sometimes trying things we thankfully didn't ship (and we tried a TON). In the end, the map we created and all of the changes that have come with it was our answer to the problems that have plagued the map for a very long time. Our goal has and will always be to allow the fast pace, high action, small team feel that TT should represent to flourish.

As for the fate of old TT, right now we have no plans to add it back into custom games. we wanted to make sure that we don't split the focus of our players for each game type. For the same reason we probably won't ever create a 5v5 map that's really similar to Summoner's Rift, we didn't want to split the TT community between two maps. There's really no winner in that scenario, as there are two maps to support, two metas to maintain, and overall a really small delta between the two. We'd rather have you and our teams focused on one, working together to make it great as opposed to two, having neither of them living up to their full potential. If competitive TT is also going to take off, having two maps, even in custom games, is detrimental.

Let's be clear though, this is still Twisted Treeline. It is a bit different and sometimes change can be a little disruptive, but when we took a look at what we had on our hands after thousands of playtests, we wanted to release the new TT to you and get feedback as part of our Beta process. That's still ongoing, and we're going to continue to listen to your feedback and make changes going forward, ensuring that TT has the support it deserves.
Listen to our feedback?? The only changes you plan on making are balance changes to the crappy dominion like items you put on this map and tweeks to aters. We never ASKED for crappy items or alters how about you get rid of all this **** and give us our map back. oh wait you guys dont LISTEN so no point asking.

We asked for a few minor tweaks to address turtling, jungle changes and you guys went way overboard and killed the map. Many newcomers and a small amount of TT players will argue against me however, the majority of TT fans and players hate the changes. The unfortunate reality is the twisted treeline community was never big and riot wanted to change that even if it means spitting in our face just so riot could reach out to a few more people. but thats ok this map will reach an all time low its just a matter of time.


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rocketdrive

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11-12-2012

singed, though it appears that riot has now forgotten this petition so i question whether or not this will actually do anything considering how riot is zealously trying to convince us that the new map "is twisted treeline" as if they never changed anything.


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nerdlingtweeb

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11-12-2012

Signed


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An87YearOldWoman

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11-12-2012

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Originally Posted by Volibar View Post

As for the fate of old TT, right now we have no plans to add it back into custom games. we wanted to make sure that we don't split the focus of our players for each game type. For the same reason we probably won't ever create a 5v5 map that's really similar to Summoner's Rift, we didn't want to split the TT community between two maps. There's really no winner in that scenario, as there are two maps to support, two metas to maintain, and overall a really small delta between the two. We'd rather have you and our teams focused on one, working together to make it great as opposed to two, having neither of them living up to their full potential. If competitive TT is also going to take off, having two maps, even in custom games, is detrimental.
So basically things worked TOO WELL and RIOT cant have that $hit. OH HELL NO!!! Riot doesn't stand for that $hit!!!!
I cant stand it either when things make sense and work well. F@ck just changing twisted treeline up. Change all the maps up. In-fact fu@k me! Lets just have every game end in a tie so nobody loses and we can all kinda have fun!!! Wouldn't that be better. Riot sure as **** thinks so!!!


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Sigemund

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11-13-2012

Signed


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Commander Yocko

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11-13-2012

Signed and supported. I'll pass along to my friends as well.


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cowpotato

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11-13-2012

already signed. tired of these noobs who say they play lots of TT and actually dont know anything about it


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Drúgs

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11-13-2012

Agreed I Want A Classic Map, Old3v3TT Or i Quit, Signed


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AZNDEVlL

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11-13-2012

I sign