[Official Petition] Let new TT be a new map by itself.

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xXCFXx Avenger

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11-10-2012

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ReepaX

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11-11-2012

BRING BACK TT

I dont even like the idea of putting it in custom.
Why not (like some people have been saying) place this Shadow Isle map under the 'dominion' tab in game modes?

Classic:
Summoner's Rift 5v5
Twisted Treeline 3v3

Dominion:
The Crystal Scar 5v5
Shadow Isle 3v3

Does that not look neat and tidy, and it gives both tabs 5's and 3's options.

Listen to your comminity; They have spoken . . .


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ImmortalAura

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11-11-2012

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11-11-2012

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Nickpws

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11-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Volibar View Post
Hi all, just wanted to drop by and say a few things. To start off, we certainly have been reading this thread and watching it over the past few weeks. I haven't been posting here because I wanted to see the overall sentiment from around the community about the new Twisted Treeline after people have had a chance to play it and experience it for themselves in a meaningful way.

I've also addressed some of TT topics on our Reddit AMA we did a few days ago, but I'm happy to discuss here as well

When we started looking at Twisted Treeline really intensely earlier this year (around the start of 2011), there were many issues that the community had identified. Among the worst were turtling, the meta being pretty stale, and there were a pretty big number of exploits that had way too much of an effect on the game. (You probably already know this, though.)

So, when we sat down to try and solve the problems, the solution space we started in was small - can we make a few simple changes here or there? What if we make a few item changes, etc.? Those helped, but ultimately we started expanding what we tried, but at the same time we were seeing better resolution to those problems. We adjusted the layout, sometimes making small changes, sometimes trying things we thankfully didn't ship (and we tried a TON). In the end, the map we created and all of the changes that have come with it was our answer to the problems that have plagued the map for a very long time. Our goal has and will always be to allow the fast pace, high action, small team feel that TT should represent to flourish.

As for the fate of old TT, right now we have no plans to add it back into custom games. we wanted to make sure that we don't split the focus of our players for each game type. For the same reason we probably won't ever create a 5v5 map that's really similar to Summoner's Rift, we didn't want to split the TT community between two maps. There's really no winner in that scenario, as there are two maps to support, two metas to maintain, and overall a really small delta between the two. We'd rather have you and our teams focused on one, working together to make it great as opposed to two, having neither of them living up to their full potential. If competitive TT is also going to take off, having two maps, even in custom games, is detrimental.

Let's be clear though, this is still Twisted Treeline. It is a bit different and sometimes change can be a little disruptive, but when we took a look at what we had on our hands after thousands of playtests, we wanted to release the new TT to you and get feedback as part of our Beta process. That's still ongoing, and we're going to continue to listen to your feedback and make changes going forward, ensuring that TT has the support it deserves.
Will you just goddamn give it back? People are asking for it constantly. It doesent hurt the game, and honestly, i'd play them both. They are both fun but we just dont want the old one gone, it's been part of this game for too long just to get taken away from us.


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Dijasom

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11-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Volibar View Post
Hi all, just wanted to drop by and say a few things. To start off, we certainly have been reading this thread and watching it over the past few weeks. I haven't been posting here because I wanted to see the overall sentiment from around the community about the new Twisted Treeline after people have had a chance to play it and experience it for themselves in a meaningful way.

When we started looking at Twisted Treeline really intensely earlier this year (around the start of 2011), there were many issues that the community had identified. Among the worst were turtling, the meta being pretty stale, and there were a pretty big number of exploits that had way too much of an effect on the game. (You probably already know this, though.)


As for the fate of old TT, right now we have no plans to add it back into custom games. we wanted to make sure that we don't split the focus of our players for each game type.

Let's be clear though, this is still Twisted Treeline.
So riot, cares nothing for its paying members opinions?
This is what i see, i payed for content on a game and you took away my content.
There was nothing wrong with the map, "turtling" is a part of the game not a problem. some champions comps MUST turtle to beat other faster paced champion comps.

Such as darius, leesin and teemo VS voli bear, singed and jax.

Now this was a playable situation and you could come out of it in a random "pub"

Now darius is able to solo that whole team. Teemo is abl to keep eyes on the whole map and slow anyone careless enough to MOVE and leesin can be ANYwhere on the map at any time due to the speed buff.

This map is NOT twisted treeline. it doesn't play anything like it.

Twisted treeline was a medium map time match. able to go from 15 minutes to 40 minutes game time.

This map is 7-25..... that is no fun. 7 minutes means one team was rushed and was pretty much darius leesin and teemo or other fast, carry heavy teams.

This map is just as unbalanced as twisted treeline in favor of speed.
And due to the overbalancing of some champions it is unplayable to some of my favorites that now can ONLY effectively be played in 5v5. but im sure you will take that map away to RATHER than add NEW content which this was supposed to be.

You are obviously fine with taking content away, and you don't like having to work to keep things you feel are challenging and you care little for your player base.

Only 30,000 posts in this thread? some 1-3million players a day? ohhhh we dont care. obviously.

So needless to say.

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Originally Posted by ReepaX View Post
BRING BACK TT

I dont even like the idea of putting it in custom.
Why not (like some people have been saying) place this Shadow Isle map under the 'dominion' tab in game modes?

Classic:
Summoner's Rift 5v5
Twisted Treeline 3v3

Dominion:
The Crystal Scar 5v5
Shadow Isle 3v3

Does that not look neat and tidy, and it gives both tabs 5's and 3's options.

Listen to your comminity; They have spoken . . .


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Aquilux

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11-11-2012

Signed!


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PhuckNlggerRlot

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11-11-2012

everyone needs to go to this thread and vote so we have a solid number to shove down riots throats
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2723156


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Xero Hero

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11-11-2012

Does anyone else feel like they are playing king of the hill on the new map? The constant fighting over altars changes the game from out maneuvering and winning your lane to controlling specific areas on the map. The changes to the map have completely altered the gameplay of 3s, which was something that many of us had come to love. The new map is nice and fun to play, however it can never replace the original 3s that I once played exclusively. Please, at the very least rename it to Shadow Isles and don't steal the name of my beloved Twisted Treeline by replacing it with a Dominion like pseudo game.


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Bob Xplosion

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11-11-2012

Signed, cant you see riot? 3k replies, bring back the map I paid 50 USDs for. (skins obviously)