创we are buffing jungle camps back up to actually be more threatening创

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TT Dreadnaught

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10-15-2012

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WW and Fiddles are really happy, just tested both this week
IS the jungle going to rape me


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Avissel

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10-15-2012

I'm confused..why exactly do the jungle mobs being harder make Fid and WW better?


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Kronicler

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10-15-2012

WW has returned as the Forest King!


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Kronicler

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I'm confused..why exactly do the jungle mobs being harder make Fid and WW better?
Before the camps were weakened to the current status, champions without some sort of sustain/innate tankiness have to start with cloth5. And not every champ can jungle. Therefore by buffing jungle camps, sustained jungler would have a bigger advantage over the others.


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type1Rush

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10-15-2012

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WW has returned as the Forest King!
Sadly that was a title split between WW and Udyr, and never just WW's alone. Now-a-days They have to compete with a wild Trundle.. So it will be interesting to see which of the 3 come out on top as the Forest King..


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FistOf7Dragons

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10-15-2012

sej cries cause already takes 100 billion damage in the jungle ._.


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CiaphasCainX

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10-15-2012

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I'm confused..why exactly do the jungle mobs being harder make Fid and WW better?
WW and Fiddle were strong junglers not necessarily because of their outright offensive power or ganking ability (there are other junglers better at it) or because of their tankiness or CC (Mumu, Malphite), but because of their sustainability. Where other junglers once had to return to base to heal at pretty regular intervals, thanks to the inbuilt heals of WW and Fiddle, they could continue farming where others couldn't.

When they changed to the Season 2 jungle, the creeps were made weaker and offered less gold, thus making a farming centered, sustain jungler less viable than an assassin jungler like Rengar or a tank/cc jungler like Mumu.

If the mobs get harder and more rewarding, that sustain/farm jungler is a viable choice once again.


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Eat Orange Be K

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10-15-2012

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I'm confused..why exactly do the jungle mobs being harder make Fid and WW better?
Part of their strength before was that bigger, harder to clear mobs meant sustain junglers like them had a place (brute force junglers could go through also, but they'd be lower in health, where WW and Fiddle could keep their health high, making it harder to invade them and they'd have higher health when they went to gank. In essence, it means people without sustain don't automatically get a pass to full health gank spamming with just starting boots.


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Kronicler

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Sadly that was a title split between WW and Udyr, and never just WW's alone. Now-a-days They have to compete with a wild Trundle.. So it will be interesting to see which of the 3 come out on top as the Forest King..
Yea.. probably udyr will be stronger in clearing but more mana hungry.
I don't think trundle can "out-jungle" ww though. No AOE and less sustain than WW.


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Illyriomysterio

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10-15-2012

So basically, AP Ezreal will absolutely need a jungler's help to grab blue in early-mid game. >.<