World Playoffs - Rule Violations

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PunnyMaster

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10-11-2012

Racism everywhere ...
I bet azubu will win 9 out of 10 times even without all the legendary map looking ... hey look, it's me, the GIANT FREAKING MINIMAP WITH A LOT OF BRIGHT COLORS AND LIGHTS BEHIND YOU ... DON'T LOOK AT ME. seriously riot .... just change the place for that cursing screen. and don't blame your laziness of placing the team in front of the map to the players.


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Cattington III

Senior Member

10-11-2012

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Originally Posted by iloveshasta View Post
They dq'ed dignitas and curse for playing an aram. Never forget that.
that was in the actual final set and it was about money. you really have to watch out for match-fixing and stuff like that while the sport is still young otherwise gangsters will get involved.


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Xyltin

Senior Member

10-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Saturok View Post
"Analysis:

WE WeiXiao clearly turned his head to his left and looked back and upward at the venue screen."

Lol they cheat and got information vital to helping them win and your answer is to take some of their winnings instead of a rematch?

K, I'm out.

Any competitive game that does this is not for me.
Seems you are also no fan of real sports or other e-sports.
Cause similar things happen there all the time (not as hard, but we had wall hackers in CS and many other things).

The normal thing is to warn the player once if he didn't get any important advantage out of that.
He reacted very similar to the raction he would normally show. And that Sona wards the brush 3 sec later (actually nearly the observer delay in tournaments) means he didn't get anything out of it.

When you try to cheat and you aregetting caught without getting any advantages, you nearly always get a warning and nothing more.

When you make an intentional foul, you may get punished a bit, but there will be no real change in the game cause of that.

=> Riot did hold onto their rules which are pretty silimar to other sports.
GJ


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melikesoda

Junior Member

10-11-2012

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Here are summaries of our findings on the other incidents:


•Quarterfinal #4, Game 3 (CLG.EU v. Team WE) at 19:24 on the game clock – WE WeiXiao looked up at the venue screen. Practical benefits to Team WE were limited - Corki’s moves after WeiXiao’s look would have been logical, whether he saw Sona’s position on the venue screens or not. We have determined this to be unsportsmanlike and have issued a warning.
•Group Stage A (IG v. SK) at 13:00 on the game clock – iG Zz1tai looked over his right shoulder at the screens. From our analysis, there was no material impact to the game. We have determined this to be unsportsmanlike and have issued a warning.
•Quarterfinal #3, (restarted) Game 1 (AZF v. TSM) during game pause – TSM Dyrus turned his head to determine whether it was feasible to see the minimap screens from the stage. TSM obtained no direct meaningful benefits from Dyrus’ action as the game was restarted, but we have issued a warning.
•Quarterfinal #2, Game 1 (TPA v. NaJin Sword) at 4:11 on the game clock - TPA Stanley briefly looked to his left, then looked forward and adjusted his monitor. We’ve determined he was responding to glare issues. The position of all five players of NaJin Sword was already visible to TPA at this time. While Stanley violated the referee’s instructions to look forward at all times, there was no unsportsmanlike conduct.



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why is it mostly Chinese and Korean players cheating
is it because they are desperate and underdogs? im pretty sure Azubu forst wasn't an underdog
what makes them more capable of cheating?


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Xyltin

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10-11-2012

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Originally Posted by melikesoda View Post
why is it mostly Chinese and Korean players cheating
is it because they are desperate and underdogs? im pretty sure Azubu forst wasn't an underdog
what makes them more capable of cheating?
There are acutally only 2 incidents where you can say they probably cheated:
WE and AF.
But on WE side, the information gatherd was not used to any advantage. So maybe he did look there cause of any other reason. Still a small violation of the rule, but no impact on the game, so Riot had to give them a warning.

So the only real incident is AF vs TSM.


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IS1823f168c21986

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10-11-2012

TPA Stanley didn't want to make the others feel left out, so he joined in just for fun. Chaox was being a bro for Dyrus.


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Skillshotautoatk

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10-11-2012

So many Asian teams cheated wow, glad NS didn't.


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messymike

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10-11-2012

finally the denial stopped and riot admitted it for the better of e-sports

there needs to be a zero chance of cheating in these kinds of tournaments
and there needs to be zero disruptions to play (glare, connectivity)
riot is the first one to blame for allowing the screens to be visible in the first place and needs to plan better for next season


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Xyltin

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10-11-2012

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Originally Posted by messymike View Post
finally the denial stopped and riot admitted it for the better of e-sports

there needs to be a zero chance of cheating in these kinds of tournaments
and there needs to be zero disruptions to play (glare, connectivity)
riot is the first one to blame for allowing the screens to be visible in the first place and needs to plan better for next season
Riot admitted it on sunday (around 12 hours after the last match).
Only the second incident of TSM vs AF was left out.
on monday they said that ALL incidents (also TSM vs AF) will get inspected.

There is never a 0% chance of cheating. That's why a lot of e-sport games had already D/Q cause of using real hard cheats and not only a 2 sec look at the minimap in the beginning.


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Asyl

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10-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Dardstar View Post
They disqualified them for splitting prize pool which is specifically against the terms of the competition, not for playing an ARAM.
Seriously, you're missing the point. This is still relevant to the ruling of the Curse/Dig ARAM at MLG. They are basically saying that cheating isn't as bad as splitting the prize money. Which I think many people in the league community believe to be the opposite, well that's what I'm getting from reading all the posts.

And this is what I'm getting from riot:
It's Okay to cheat, just be sure you have cash to cover the fines and are prepared to lose a cut of the prize money.

Unacceptable.