What AP Champ has the MOST burst in a 5 second fight?

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whouthink

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10-09-2012

Veigar only needs 0.5 seconds to end your pitiful existence


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IS11d6327cb35cafc124891

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10-09-2012

too many noob here. me nostradamusss, don't even bother to say the truth. but i can't resist loling when people say veigar is the best when his Q ap ratio is 0.6. lol. not sure if dumb or trolling.


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ZodiarkSavior

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10-09-2012

Cassiopeia or Syndra.


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Chaos Mavrek

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10-09-2012

Veigar is the king of burst imo, with e, w, q, r and unlimited AP cap.


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Eiales

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10-09-2012

1000 AP... what are you smoking?

Veigar is strong given only 1 second, sure, but given 5 seconds I'd say Fiddle or Cassiopeia.


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Clock Code

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10-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Nostradamusss View Post
too many noob here. me nostradamusss, don't even bother to say the truth. but i can't resist loling when people say veigar is the best when his Q ap ratio is 0.6. lol. not sure if dumb or trolling.
idc what the ratio on his Q is, have you seriously never seen veigar one shot people? I've never seen any other champ one shot people. Not Karthus. Not Ryze. Not Fiddlesticks. Nobody. Ever. Period.

The answer is veigar.


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CounterCraft

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10-09-2012

Always Karthus


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Purgex

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10-09-2012

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It would really depend on what enemy they're facing, there's no 100% way to say who would deal the most damage overall.
IMO Malz can do a ton of damage, all his skills with 1000 AP would be:

Q: 300 +800 = 1100 damage.

W: 13% of your max HP per second for 5 seconds, meaning 65% of your max HP as damage. (This is where the whole "It depends" thing comes into play.)

E: 320+800 = 1120 damage.

R: 550 + 1300 = 1850 damage.

That's overall 4070 magic damage + 65% of your max HP, more than enough to kill most people when calculated before MR reductions etc...


Edit:
Also people seem to be accounting for AoE effects, so there's that too.
65% of the entire enemy teams HP is kinda retarded.
Also, do voidlings count as a spell? cuz that would add a little bit more.

1000 AP at .01% is 10%, and the base is 8%. He would actually be doing 18% per second, not 13%. He would hit for 90% of everyone's health. It's entirely possible to deal more than 100% of the entire enemy team's health over the course of 5 seconds with his pool.
Not that it would be effective in a real game, but in theoretical situations I think he can get to like ~120% of the entire enemy team's health.


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KireAB

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10-09-2012

Fiddle with 1000 AP does 8810 damage to single target with max bounces. LB does 5147 (mimic chains). Ryze does 7650 in 2 rounds with 2000 mana and 1000 ap. Malzahar does 4070+65% of HP (surpasses Fiddle on ~6k HP targets). Cassio does 8755 with 0.5 second travel time on E. Veigar does 5540 versus a target with 1000 AP.

Edit: with 90% HP, Malz surpasses Fiddle on ~5.3k+ HP targets.


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Ornan

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10-09-2012

Fiddlesticks pls.