What AP Champ has the MOST burst in a 5 second fight?

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Razzcastic

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10-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Felaedor View Post
5 seconds is not burst.
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Risemix

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10-09-2012

The answer is either Fiddlesticks or LeBlanc

Other candidates: Rumble, Xerath, Swain, Malzahar


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Padagi

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10-09-2012

Veigar with Leblanc pretty close behind. Annie and some of the other mages aren't far behind either (Brand, Zyra for example).


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Auryiel

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10-09-2012

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Originally Posted by octavian1127 View Post
So um, nobody has hit on the actual answer. Pretty sure AP Kog with 1k AP will destroy.

Q: 260 + 700 = 960 (one shot in 5 sec)
W: 6 + 10 = 16% (approx 7 shots in 5 sec) = 112%
E: 260 + 700 = 960 (one shot in 5 sec)
R: 160 + 300 = 460 *2.25 (for hitting champs) = 1035 (5 shots in 5 sec) = 5175

total damage = 7095 + 112% of hp

i think that beats anybody else......
You made an obvious mistake.

How do you attack and cast at the same time? It's quite impossible to land 5 ult and 5 shots of W at the same time.

Also, the AP ratio doesn't get multiplied when dealing damage to champions. Only the base damage.


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Tofubots

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10-09-2012

The only reason you guys say veigar is because of his ultimate damage on other AP champs.


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SnowTraxis

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10-09-2012

Most Potential - Veigar. He can theoretically hit 999999 AP and thus 1 shot anyone doing the msot damage, regardless of your 6 FoNs. Except Sion.

Most actual - With good placement, fiddle or karthus.


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Auryiel

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Originally Posted by SnowTraxis View Post
Most Potential - Veigar. He can theoretically hit 999999 AP and thus 1 shot anyone doing the msot damage, regardless of your 6 FoNs. Except Sion.

Most actual - With good placement, fiddle or karthus.
He said with 1k AP lol


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Ask Tyrant Swain

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10-09-2012

Calculating. Damage in a best possible situation.

Cass (Using E once per second): 7565
Fiddle: 8810
Viegar (counting the enemy also having 1000 AP): 5540
Malzahar: 4300 +90% of your max HP (ouch)
Karthus (not using ult): 7250
Brand: 6920 +10% of your max HP
Ahri: 5175 +940 pure damage
Anivia: 6110
Diana: 6108
Kassadin: 4780
Le Blanc: 6377
Morgana: 4675
Orianna (with 3/4/5 auto-attacks from passive): 4390/4590/4790
Rumble (using all abilities and two auto attacks with overheat): 8545
Swain: 5384
Xerath: 5365
Zyra (two torn spiters attacking for 5 seconds): 8179
Gragas: 5300
Ziggs (two Short Fuse Procs): 6460
Eve: 4120 +45% of your max HP.
Kenen: 6960
Akali: 5290
Ezreal (procking Lich Bane two times): 8945 (FTW? o_O)
Fizz (with two Lich bane procs): 9170 + 13% of your missing health (I change my mind, Fizz is insane!)
Himerdinger: 5010
Katarina: 6120
Twisted fate (two Lich Bane procs and two Stacked Deck Procs and two blue Cards): 5970
Viktor: 6405

Apparently, Fiddle, Rumble, Ezreal, Fizz and Zyra have the most damage, with Fizz being the best among them.


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Selk3t

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10-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Yamanga View Post
AP Tristana with 1000 AP only using her jump on a 7 creeps wave with 5 champions will deal 19250 damage.
There is no champion in league of legends that deals more damage than AP Tristana when there are creeps in the area. :P

Explosion damage from "Explosive Shot" Passive is 150 (+ 25% AP) = 400
Total magic damage 7 x 400 = 2800
From "Rocket Jump" 250 (+ 80% AP) = 1050

To a grand total of 3850 magic damage per champion, and to the entire team 19250 magic damage

Edit: for those who don't believe I attach an example video :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q02zv5LxR-4
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Originally Posted by Blackberry Pie View Post
I'm guessing you clicked on this forum post because you doubt me. Well, I am here to defy your expectations.

I've been on the hunt for the most damage possible under certain conditions. The following theoretical situation involves all 7 shots of Twitch's Spray and Pray ultimate.

The Claim:
During Twitch's ultimate, his Spray and Pray does 100% of his attack damage and applies ALL on-hit effects. Now you've probably heard about and seen youtube videos of Tiamat stacking with Twitch, but I ran some numbers just to theoretically discover how much possible damage Twitch could do under optimal conditions. As you will see, it is theoretically possible to do over 1,000,000 damage during the course of these 7 shots.


The Conditions:
Tiamat's stacking splash damage becomes multiplicitavely stronger with the more people that are nearby. If the enemy team all sits in one cluster (ie: the single Baron bush) and ALL those players have pets (ie: Shaco, Yorick, Mordekieser, Annie, and Malzahar) which are ALSO in the bush with them, then there are 10 units that can be hit by each of Twitch's Spray and Pray shots. Below, is a list of ALL attack damage modifiers possible given a 5 person team (I know there are other bonuses, but I had to choose the top 4 AD bonus supporters):

10 Red Elixer
12 Masteries
52 Might Runes at Level 18 (per level attack damage)
40 Baron Bonus
50 Janna's Shield
20 Gangplank's Raise Moral
35 Spray and Pray ultimate AD bonus
35 Taric's Radiance
8 Aegis of Legion
108 Twitch's base damage at 18
300 Tiamat damage x6
12% Increased Damage from Vladamir's ultimate

This gives us a total base damage of 762. Now, the math.

The Math:

By stacking 6 Tiamats, your attacks deal 100% of your total base damage to the target, and 210% (since it is ranged) of your total base damage to all surrounding targets. Therefore, if EACH unit is hit once in close proximity to each other, then EACH unit receives 100% + (210% * (the number of nearby units)). If the number of nearby units is 9 (4 champions + 5 pets), then each player receives (100% + (210% * 9) or 1990% damage.

The Result:

What's 762 times 1990%? 15,156. 15,156? Yes, 15,156. EVERY unit will receive 15k damage PER hit. But our sneaky, little rat has more that one shot. During Spray and Pray, he will launch 7 shots. What's 7 times 15,156? 106,092. Each unit will receive a TOTAL of 106k damage.

Since there are 10 units present, 106,092 times 10 is 1,060,924. If there were, however, no pets involved, unfortunately Spray and Pray is reduced to a mere 250,570 damage...

Now, of course this would require all the champions involved to have 1 million+ health to withstand the onslaught, so we're going to pretend our cluster of victims have the fortitude of Chuck Norris--which makes this situation all the more theoretical considering Spray and Pray darts quite obviously bounce off of Chuck Norris' awesomeness.

Also, it's possible that I am still missing added damage somewhere, but ONE MILLION damage seems sufficient for an ultimate. We wouldn't want it to be overkill…
This ^^


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KireAB

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10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Ask Tyrant Swain View Post
Ezreal (procking Lich Bane two times): 8945 (FTW? o_O)
Fizz (with two Lich bane procs): 9170 + 13% of your missing health (I change my mind, Fizz is insane!)
Apparently, Fiddle, Rumble, Ezreal, Fizz and Zyra have the most damage, with Fizz being the best among them.
You can build lichbane and DFG on anybody. Channeling spells makes lichbane worse though.