Just got to Plat playing ONLY SHACO AMA

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TheSlappySlap

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10-17-2012

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His personal stats aren't what's winning games. Yes you could say he's getting carried, but those others are carrying him because he got them fed in lane. A jungler doesn't need good stats if he gets his lanes fed.
i guess lolking doesn't take into consideration jungle creeps or something... 50 cs is really low even at 20 minutes


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MadKingThorn

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10-17-2012

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Do I hate you?
Idk maybe ?

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your average stats are so bad (5.8/4/9.2 and 50.5 cs per game), how are you winning? Are you sure you aren't just getting carried?
This game is a game about gold advantage [and disadvantage]. If I tower dive gank an enemy that has 10 creeps at his tower and my lane partner gets the kill notice:
-I get the assist gold
-My partner gets the main gold
-The enemy loses 10 CS and the experience.

Additionally if we take the tower thats global team gold.

Just because my personal KDA and jungle creeps arent high doens't mean I am not contributing to the team :P. Plus -- Dragons are very important and I usually keep them on lockdown as best I can.

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His personal stats aren't what's winning games. Yes you could say he's getting carried, but those others are carrying him because he got them fed in lane. A jungler doesn't need good stats if he gets his lanes fed.
^^that

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i guess lolking doesn't take into consideration jungle creeps or something... 50 cs is really low even at 20 minutes
Not sure I think it does though. Keep in mind 2-3 dragons gold does matter. Also game length. If I go 6-4-9 and have 50 CS and 3 dragons and a bunch of towers.. in a 20 minute game is tha tbad?


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Ghalaggin

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10-17-2012

Do you ever get an early oracles or do you decide it's too risky to be worth it?


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MadKingThorn

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10-17-2012

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Do you ever get an early oracles or do you decide it's too risky to be worth it?
Usually its too risky to be worth it BUT if I get an early kill and they are warding to the point where every bush in every lane is warded I will get one and start playing more cautiously (I like to play a little reckless high risk high reward :P).

Once the wards are cleared out then I can gank very nicely, so its not always bad but you will want at least 1 kill to fund that oracles. Paying out of pocket as 0-0-0 is very tough.


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Goliath

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10-17-2012

Wanted to thank you for this thread. Made me want to play shaco again.
Thanks to this I improved my jungling by a lot ^^


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CBlazer

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10-17-2012

Cool stuff. Fun to watch.

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http://www.own3d.tv/watch/845662 Go to 47:13-48:04 to see how useless AP nidalee is, and then a crazy 1v1
This replay, at 45:00, perfectly illustrates how annoying it is to click the skill-up buttons ever since that recent patch. Riot seriously needs to revert that change.


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MadKingThorn

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10-17-2012

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Wanted to thank you for this thread. Made me want to play shaco again.
Thanks to this I improved my jungling by a lot ^^
Thanks to everyone watching/posting! Your support motivated me to stream :P


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MadKingThorn

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10-17-2012

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Cool stuff. Fun to watch.



This replay, at 45:00, perfectly illustrates how annoying it is to click the skill-up buttons ever since that recent patch. Riot seriously needs to revert that change.
Just rewatched lol I can't tell you how many times I do that xD


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regERROR

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10-18-2012

This is a really good thread, I learned quite a bit, thanks. I was wondering what you think about a full AP build for Shaco? For instance, All AP masteries, and runes?


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MadKingThorn

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10-18-2012

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This is a really good thread, I learned quite a bit, thanks. I was wondering what you think about a full AP build for Shaco? For instance, All AP masteries, and runes?
AP Shaco is a little gimmicky, I should practice it a bit more and see if I can get better but especially with Death Fire Grasp nerfs its going to take a big hit in viability :\