As a TSM fan. Just gonna say it

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Dalze

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10-06-2012

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Originally Posted by VexaraX View Post
They wont catch up, they don't have the discipline to do it, also they don't have anyone to play against that will force them to learn, as Reg says all the time he is the best in the world with that ego holding him back he won't get better. He can't even get top ELO in solo q.
You are clueless if you actually BELIEVE Regi won't do anything to get better and that his ego actually blinds him like that. As someone said on another thread, that is just for show, to trash talk, to get into people's head, I'm sure he KNOWS they got outplayed.


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Xyltin

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10-06-2012

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Originally Posted by S9n9rgY View Post
I cannot believe the audacity of Riot to come on the forums and defend the team that is quoted as ' you either win or you suck', 'easiest finals ever!'.

You dont reprimand TSM for talking a TON of trash to the other teams particularly the NA teams, and then defend them after they play horrible again frost.... At the very least you should let them eat a little crow for opening their big mouths and not being able to back it up.

Dyrus can put on his big boy pants, tell Chaox and Regi to shut their mouths and make nice with CLG and DIG. The NA scene has a long way to go, and the critical, cocky nature of TSM is divisive toward the grow/development of the NA so NA can get on the same level as those to the east.

As for Oddone Xpecial and Dyrus I kinda feel sorry for them, that their teammates have no respect for anyone or anything, because they're guilty by association and get **** like this thread, when the fact is none of the NA teams can compete with frost and their style/ picks so its impossible to assign blame.

People think after the TRM thing you can just get rid of someone and things fixed, but the fact of the matter is the reason TSM got better when they got Dyrus is because everyone on TSM picked up their play. Just like all the NA teams need to do now, pick up their play.

The funny thing about it all is that Chaox talks trash about CLG during the CLG SK game inspite of the fact that Hotshot gave TSM a huge compliment a few days ago say that ' The Oddone is the best all around jungle on the NA scene at the moment' and Chauster said something the effect of 'Oddone is a really good jungle because he gank any lane at any time and knows when to commit to a gank and when to go farm.'
You seem to not understand TSM and how they work.
When Regis talks bad about others he is doing it with sarcasms or cause some insider between the teams.
He also wants to heat up his team.

There is no disrespect

And HSGG and Doublelift trash talked about other teams (especially TSM), too, on their streams. But nobody takes it serious. This is a young scene and thisshould heat up the competition between the teams and the fans.
Nothing very serious was said there.


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Ryndis

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10-06-2012

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Dyrus plays a lot more than just those champs at a professional level. During tournament play the past 3 months I can name the following off the top of my head:

Kayle
Yorick
Rumble
Vlad
Darius
Jayce
Jax
Singed
Shen
Malphite

He is capable of playing his fair share of champions, it is a question of whether or not they fit into the team composition. I think TSM's reasoning behind the Darius pick was that even if he couldn't get some traction with a gank to stay even or ahead of Jayce he would still be useful with his ultimate even if he was far behind.

The idea behind the composition is simple. Sona/karth force an engage. Karthus suicides into team and drops team really low with defile + karthus ultimate. Darius cleans up low health players with ultimate and snowballs a team fight. Sona is also really strong against poke if she goalies the poke well enough. Built in aegis + pretty sustainable healing and her ultimate can be used to counter or force initiates.

Shyvana does not fit into that composition at all. Shyvana doesnt peel, her ultimate HURTS their engage because their window of opportunity is already short and dragons descent PUSHES a team away. When every tick of defile can make or break darius ultimate resetting or not being reset, the last thing you want is a knockback on your team.

That doesnt mean shyvana doesnt have her benefits. Shyv karthus brings absurd objective control. You can blitz barons, dragons, blues really quickly and your jungle team fight is really strong. However, if thats what they were going for, they shouldnt have picked such a toss up in top lane. It just baffles me that malphite was open and they didnt pick him.

Their ad carry was MF. MF ultimate is interrupt-able. Outside of MF ultimate her only real sources of damage comes from AA's. Naturally, attack speed slows are incredibly effective against her. Jayce is incredibly elusive but he can be killed if you hit him with a decent duration CC and darius can finish him pretty quickly. Blitzcrank can ruin a game for his team if he pulls the wrong target. TSM had one bad pull target(karthus) but other then that nothing else. They should have picked malphite


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Xyltin

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10-06-2012

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They wont catch up, they don't have the discipline to do it, also they don't have anyone to play against that will force them to learn, as Reg says all the time he is the best in the world with that ego holding him back he won't get better. He can't even get top ELO in solo q.
AF feared his mid laners, especially the Orianna he learned in the last week before the tournament (banned twice against him).

And Regi himself doesn't believe that he is the best, but saying it provokes the other mid laners a bit and he also wants to make this statement true, what should lead to a more focused and concentrate play on his side.

People have different mentalities and motivation is important. Some needs fans, others need to prove things, ...


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J Tron

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10-06-2012

Maknoon and Stanley most OP top laners world.


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VexaraX

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10-06-2012

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You are clueless if you actually BELIEVE Regi won't do anything to get better and that his ego actually blinds him like that. As someone said on another thread, that is just for show, to trash talk, to get into people's head, I'm sure he KNOWS they got outplayed.

TSM might be the 7th best team in the world, right now. They wouldnt have made it out of group stage for day one. With more team's joining S3, I predict they fall to 15th or worst and CLG.NA has a new roster. After S3 reg retires to manager.


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RockcIimber

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10-06-2012

My ever growing respect for Tryndamere increased greatly in this topic.


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APXZ

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10-06-2012

He derped this series. Everyone does. He hasn't been in something this big, he probably got cold feet. It's obvious the way he was pushing he wasn't himself.


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MeatThrottle

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He derped this series. Everyone does. He hasn't been in something this big, he probably got cold feet. It's obvious the way he was pushing he wasn't himself.
Sorry but when you're a professional player playing at that level, excuses like that don't cut it. Saying he had one bad tournament won't cut it either, he has consistently shown he is not up to par, with only the herculean efforts of the rest of the team carrying them to victory. And this is not his first world tournament or even his 5th.


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KarlHolz

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10-06-2012

He just had a bad day...