@Riot A serious discussion about gender. Please read

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Shaella

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10-09-2012

also i'm a woman so i'm not sure how wanting more variety in female bodytypes makes me a ******


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Vu Sugoi

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10-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Shaella View Post
How is this **** still going

I don't understand how people can be against variety.
no one is against variety but the propaganda that OP posted was more about against sexiness. Very boob envy and hating those with *** appeal. Calling a lot of champs ****s or strippers because OP had to put them in the gutter in his mind.


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Darkwahn

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10-09-2012

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This?



This is not an argument. This is what you call a third grader having a little bit more maturity than you. In case you weren't aware, it's also a logical fallacy known as ad hominem.
Exactly what someone with an inferior argument would say. Call it a fallacy, and be done with it because you cant wrap your mind around it.

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also i'm a woman so i'm not sure how wanting more variety in female bodytypes makes me a ******
Nope.


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Shaella

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10-09-2012

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no one is against variety but the propaganda that OP posted was more about against sexiness. Very boob envy and hating those with *** appeal. Calling a lot of champs ****s or strippers because OP had to put them in the gutter in his mind.
No, some people here are clearly against variety.


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Vu Sugoi

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10-09-2012

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If all of your choices are ****ty, then variety isnt a good thing. Don't be such a fucking retard all the time.
i think the point hes making is if theres so much choices, no one knows what to pick anymore.


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Shaella

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10-09-2012

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Exactly what someone with an inferior argument would say. Call it a fallacy, and be done with it because you cant wrap your mind around it.
Oh cmon dude, thats the best you've got?

Thats not how you troll, thats just portraying yourself as a moron

Or you know, you actually are 12.


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Shaella

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10-09-2012

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i think the point hes making is if theres so much choices, no one knows what to pick anymore.
How is that a bad thing
OH MAN I JUST HAVE TOO MANY GOOD CHOICES, OH WOE IS ME


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get dat birdman

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10-09-2012

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Oh cmon dude, thats the best you've got?

Thats not how you troll, thats just portraying yourself as a moron

Or you know, you actually are 12.
Hey now, 12 means he could be in 6th or 7th grade. Can't give him too much credit.


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Vu Sugoi

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10-09-2012

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Soraka is "better" in one aspect at the cost of what the OP is all about. They could've tried making different better somehow, but apparently it was too hard or otherwise not what they wanted to do.
i still miss that side boob. forever in my memories... but her new upgrade rocks. divine soraka is hot


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Yin30

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10-09-2012

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As a gay gamer, I have to respectfully disagree on some of the male champions you called out as underdressed but non-sexualized. I think given roughly the same amount of clothing/skin ratio, the degree of sexualization is not something entirely in the hands of the developer or artist, but also the disposition of the audience. Basically, I'm saying that you appear to be dismissing Tryndamere, Varus, Lee Sin, Penta Olaf, and Pantheon as under-sexualized because you don't find them sexy. Bodybuilders are 'nasty'? That's an entirely subjective statement and you went on to turn it into a blanket generalization. I happen to find bulky-built men incredibly sexy. For me, Tryndamere, Varus, Lee Sin, Penta Olaf, and Pantheon are quite sexy, and quite sexual. Their splash art highlights their masculinity and their physical prowess (bulging arms, pecs, naked in the cold, heroic stance, being a drummer, etc). And physical dominance, my dear, is sexy. To me. And muscle are unsexy. To you. I agree on your points that female champions are overwhelmingly (and quite disproportionately) oversexualized, but I think you have to turn your subjectivity down a notch when it comes to male champions and what makes or breaks sexual objectification for them.

Unfortunately, societal gender role and values come into play here and that's a very messy thing to buck against. For instance, I find Pantheon's splash art of him looking aggressive as all hell and very tense to be rather hot. But that's because society teaches us that males *should* be sexually aggressive and dominant. That's not something Riot can magic away, they just have to be more aware of how they cater to both their drawn-to-males and drawn-to-females audience.

PS: Additionally, MY list of sexy male champs:
Nasus - Great arms, great thighs, especially if you look at the Chinese splash. Then again he's a dog. So...yeah.
Garen - Good lord, this man has the jawline of a Greek god. I can't decide if I want to run away with Rugged Garen or Desert Trooper Garen.
Ryze - Shoulders! Biceps! Pecs! Abs! Are you sure this guy is a spell-flinging mage? Because damn, he is BUILT. A few points off for that god-awful beard though. Can we get a sexy Five O' Clock Shadow Ryze, or Well-Trimmed Ryze?
Malzahar - Ok, to be honest I didn't think Malzahar was hot until I saw Taco Storm.
Xin Zhao - Oh. My. God. HERE is Xin Zhao's original design. I would follow this man. To my grave. This looks like a man fierce in battle, stoic in the evening, and gentle in bed. This is the man my man could smell like. The final design? 7/10, would still do. I mean, look at the Chinese splash for the Viscero skin. Now THAT is a gladiator.
Gangplank - He's a pirate. Before his remodeling he had some serious pec cleavage and chest hair going on, and after his remodeling he found some very well-defined biceps. He can board my deck however he likes.
Jarvan IV - Look at his classic skin. Look at it! Those pecs! Those abs! That tight black spandex! Seriously, Jarvan. That **** is for ballet and modern dancers.
Udyr - Don't laugh, but I think a hippie who communes with wild animals is attractive in his own way. Granted, he probably smells funny and doesn't know what shampoo is, but when you're both at Burning Man, who's gonna care?
udyr, ryze, malzahar? nasus?? your not gay, your a troll