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@Riot A serious discussion about gender. Please read

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Light Fantastic

Senior Member

10-08-2012

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Crosbie:
He just said "every human male", shortly after saying Gragas was not a human male. Looks like you misinterpreted that one.

That's like saying no-one was ever supposed to find Star Trek aliens hot because they're technically not human. You know, except that they look almost entirely human. Guess Kirk was way into his bestiality then, huh.


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SmokingPuffin

Senior Member

10-08-2012

I think the single biggest turnoff for women on female character design is when they get gear that doesn't fit the kit.

Caitlyn would have been a huge hit with women but you stuffed her in a stupid minidress. What kind of sheriff wears that? Bad form.

Diana is the polar opposite of this, with gear that is iconic for her character and also happens to be super badass.


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Bekkal

Senior Member

10-08-2012

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Light Fantastic:
So why don't Riot do the same with female champs? Is there a reason Urgot couldn't have been female? Or Shaco? Conversely, how do Sona's gigantic breasts and incredibly low neckline relate to her kit? Why is Sejuani wearing a leather bikini in the coldest environment in the game? Or Ashe, for that matter? What is it about mastering the dark arts that makes Morgana feel the need to bare her midriff? Etc etc etc.

I agree, it's limiting for men to be confined to "badass" and women to be confined to "temptress". That's why Taric and Ezreal are seen as being gay (ffs), and it's a contributory factor to why no-one plays Poppy. It cuts both ways, but I would argue that "badass" has a much, much broader scope than "temptress".


Why does Varus look like this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IcmLMedgGQQ/T4THnvKbbUI/AAAAAAAABEM/yCCnxH5yk2U/s1600/League%2Bof%2BLegends%2BVarus%2BWallpaper.jpg

Instead of this: http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/2c859b60d6bfaf4406676b812c3b8f69/http://www.planetrenders.net/renders/albums/userpics/13052/normal_archer.jpg

Both are in the same style (high fantasy with anime overtones), and both are in action poses. One of them is clothed.Have you seen how Tryndamere dresses?

You really have no point here. Men and women are both portrayed with a minimum of clothing unless said clothing is specifically designed to increase their appeal.


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Emailsúpport

Member

10-08-2012

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Light Fantastic:

You do realise beautiful and sexy can be entirely different things, right?

You do realize that beautiful and sexy are VERY different for many different people.
Just cause you have a thing for half snake ladies does not mean I do.


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Emailsúpport

Member

10-08-2012

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SmokingPuffin:
I think the single biggest turnoff for women on female character design is when they get gear that doesn't fit the kit.

Caitlyn would have been a huge hit with women but you stuffed her in a stupid minidress. What kind of sheriff wears that? Bad form.

Diana is the polar opposite of this, with gear that is iconic for her character and also happens to be super badass.

Psh, all females in the League are independent so that's not an argument that males are independent and females not.
If Caitlyn bothers you, take a look at Varus, who would seriously wear that in battle?

OH WAIT IT'S A FANTASY GAME


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Reichsmann

Senior Member

10-08-2012

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ricklessabandon:


very large web


Spider Queen confirmed.


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Karolina

Senior Member

10-08-2012

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Bekkal:
Olaf and Graves aren't part of a female fantasy?

I guess this http://newspaper.li/static/a18222f14645bb5842b65e1c8728294d.jpg is just a famous picture because of the good use of lighting, then.

Your specific tastes have nothing to do with the objective fact that every character is sexualized. I don't find Miss Fortune sexy in the slightest, but she is like the poster child for the pseudo-feminists on these boards.

Are you comparing a young Clint Eastwood (posing in what is analog to LoL's female poses) to Graves and Olaf ?
http://images.wikia.com/leagueoflegends/images/f/f7/Olaf_OriginalSkin.jpg
http://images.wikia.com/leagueoflegends/images/9/9b/Graves_OriginalSkin.jpg
I don't see any similarity at all (none that can be inferred from just the pictures), and I don't see any male champion posing like that in any splash art, while female champs DO pose sexy in theirs.
Actually, we could really use a champ that had that suave look. A proper ladiesman.

Still, the point of the thread isn't changing previous champs.


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Light Fantastic

Senior Member

10-08-2012

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Bekkal:
Why does Varus look like this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IcmLMedgGQQ/T4THnvKbbUI/AAAAAAAABEM/yCCnxH5yk2U/s1600/League%2Bof%2BLegends%2BVarus%2BWallpaper.jpg

Instead of this: http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/2c859b60d6bfaf4406676b812c3b8f69/http://www.planetrenders.net/renders/albums/userpics/13052/normal_archer.jpg

Both are in the same style (high fantasy with anime overtones), and both are in action poses. One of them is clothed.Have you seen how Tryndamere dresses?

You really have no point here. Men and women are both portrayed with a minimum of clothing unless said clothing is specifically designed to increase their appeal.

Garen, Xin, Draven, Darius, Gangplank, Graves, Jarvan, Jayce, Yi, Pantheon, Shen, Singed, Swain, Talon, Taric, TF, Udyr, Vlad, Viktor, Zilean. All both fully clothed and clothed for utility rather than $ex appeal. Of the adult humanoid ladies, you could only really say the same for Diana, Fiora, Karma, Leona, Lux, Riven and Vayne. Even then, their clothing is skintight and lots are posing with their ass out.

Of the male champs in this game Varus is perhaps the only one that's actually sexualised, as the OP mentioned.

And I've said it before but shirtlessness doesn't equal sexualisation. This dude (http://madmikesamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/abercrombie-and-fitch-model.jpg) is shirtless and sexualised, whereas this dude (http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/bodybuilders/imgs/flex-wheeler/flex-wheeler-3.jpg) is not. Shirtless women almost always equal sexualisation, whereas shirtless dudes can mean either sexualisation or emphasised masculinity.


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Rustmaker

Senior Member

10-08-2012

You supervised over Viktor's art design!? OMG I love Viktor not just because of his awesome kit, but his fantastic character design! He totally fits that cyborg look and I really like how he is so unique and different from all the other male champions (at least in appearance). I don't know if you guys planned this waaaaay in advance, but he also contrasts Jayce's "dashing scientist" look perfectly. Plus, I love his "sentient hand" joke + the shuffle (I know that doesn't relate to art, but I just thought I'd mention it).

That automatically makes you awesome in my book! XD


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Pacifist Dalek

Junior Member

10-08-2012

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IronStylus:


2) Glasses? I agree with the Roosevelt thing.


Oh man. You know what would be awesome? An older gentleman champion with a big grey moustache. Either a pugilist style brawler ("I challenge you to fisticuffs!&quot or a big game hunter.