Skin: Firedancer Draven

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Spookypatrol

Senior Member

10-27-2012

Combining some messages.

1. I added a quick little message to Riot underneath the disclaimer. I'm sure a few of you guys will appreciate it

2. I don't know that I'll be working on the new splash much today, if at all, but if I do I'll post up some WIPs since it's going to be a long process.

3. Been checking on the poll numbers, and things are looking good! First result is still hovering just under 53%, which is fantastic, and the amount of people who don't like the skin is still hovering below 3%!


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Akkku

Senior Member

10-27-2012

riot, pls


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Taylion

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10-27-2012

My Only complaint about this skin concept is that it should be punks not axes. I don't think it sshould have to bbe an axe and q correct end to his fire tools would make this feel better. This has nothing to do with the fact that I spin from time to time...


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Spookypatrol

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10-27-2012

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My Only complaint about this skin concept is that it should be punks not axes. I don't think it sshould have to bbe an axe and q correct end to his fire tools would make this feel better. This has nothing to do with the fact that I spin from time to time...
Yeah, I can understand why you'd feel that way, which is why I didn't give him plain axes and went with a poleaxe design instead, that way it still has the "Draven" feel of throwing axes while more or less maintaining the general pole-shape of most fire spinning batons and such. I honestly prefer him to have axes of a sort just to maintain that Draven theme, and flaming axes are nice and show-off-y and dangerous, so that's why I went for axes instead of straight batons.

Additionally, I had to integrate the circular handle, and the swinging motion of his axes into a weapon design, and that didn't work very well with just a baton or staff, etc.


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tmarrsy

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10-27-2012

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[(10/23) Firedancer has just reached 1k upvotes! The best part is, it only took about three weeks! Thank you guys so much!]

Alright, so I have this idea posted already on the Fanart Forums, but someone recommended I move over to the General Discussion forums for a better shot at more traffic. So, here we go, a skin idea I had for Draven


Splash Art:

Edit: Due to comments made about the inaccurate anatomy for the current splash art, I have taken the art from one of
the concept arts I've done recently and am using it as the base for a new splash art. Here's the work in progress for it. Enjoy!

Attachment 546921

Current Splash Art

Attachment 535861

Here is the full size image: http://imageshack.us/a/img823/8342/f...vencomplet.jpg

360 Concept Sheet:


Attachment 535788

Full size image: http://imageshack.us/a/img846/5070/f...venturnaro.jpg

Concept Art:

Attachment 545367


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Firedancer Animation Stillframes:


Abilities:

Spinning Axe [Q]: Attachment 539547 Stand Aside [E]: Attachment 539596 Whirling Death [R]: Attachment 538826

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Emotes:

Dance: Attachment 535791 Joke: Attachment 535789 Taunt: Attachment 538255 Laugh: Attachment 537023

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Recall:

Alternate: Attachment 539657 Standard: Attachment 535790

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Critical Hit:

Right: Attachment 537860 Left: Attachment 538002

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Auto Attack:

Attachment 539610

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Run:

Attachment 537024

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Other Art:

Classic/Firedancer Comparison

Attachment 548261

(I realize my handwriting is pretty small, so here is a larger version for those of you struggling with reading the notes)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9...ssicdraven.jpg

Mugshot:
Attachment 538326

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Qs and As: (Note, anyone can ask a question, and if I deem it an important, and appropriate, one, I will be more than happy to answer it and post it here!

So, what inspired you to make Firedancer?

Well, for starters, Draven is my favorite champion. Naturally, I have done my share of research on him, and in that I learned that his dance was based on the Fire Dance. It was a pretty easy leap from there to decide on a Polynesian skin.

How did you come up with the outfit design?

I wanted to stay true to Draven's classic skin design elements without, obviously, making it overly-similar. With that, I slapped on a headband, which was, conveniently enough, a popular design element for fire dancer outfits, and gave him elaborate back and front sashes. Additionally, I wanted to keep his rings and spikes theme, so I added spikes to his belt and rings to hold the sashes. I didn't want to change his hair or his signature facial hair much, so I kept the basic idea (long hair, spiked up. Fu Manchu.) and added to it. (I added a beard and I slicked the hair back and shortened it slightly, as well as let his hair down instead of putting it on his shoulder how he has it in his classic art.) Draven also seems to like his jewelry, so I kept his earrings (only gave him two, as opposed to his classic three, but made them thicker to compensate.) and added a necklace so his chest wouldn't look so bare.

What about the body paint designs?

This was an interesting process. I wanted to keep a vague similarity to his classic skin body paint, which is why the majority of the paint is only on one side of his body. However, the designs of the body paint itself isn't entirely significant. If you look, his left side of his body paint is vaguely wave-shaped and the right side of his body has flame-shapes. His torso, however, is pretty much random, with vague claw or paw shaped prints. I did, however, make sure that I gave him plenty of paint around his eyes. Draven has some pretty awesome eyes, and the contrast between the pale grey-blue natural color of his eyes and darker face paint is not only an element of his classic art, but in my opinion a very important element.

How did you decide on the design for his axes?

I knew that he would have to have something pole-like in order to keep it consistent with the fire dancing theme. The difficult part, then, would be to make sure he still has axes. Even more importantly, those axes had to rotate on a circular handle, which made the design job an absolute nightmare. I finally settled on a poleaxe design with a circular handle, but if you notice, the handle isn't completely circular. The break in the handle where his wrist would fall would potentially be a bit awkward in game, but it was my intent to give the impression that he *has* to spin it manually, so the blades only need enough of a track to be able to swing outward and lock in place. I imagine Draven was supposed to spin his axes manually, anyway, and the fact that the blades spin on their own in game is just a convenience for animation.

As for the mechanism behind setting the axes on fire, the cloth wrappings on the blades are based on a Samoan fire knife.

How long have you been working on Firedancer?

I'm estimating it's been well over a month by now, between planning the skin and actually doing the art. I know just the art itself has definitely been a month off and on between all of the different concepts and sketches I've done. The actual design phase took a few days, and the planning stage was also another few days. The splash art itself took about two weeks off and on. The longest, most challenging part of the design phase was definitely figuring out the axes. I redesigned them a couple of times before finalizing a design I was pretty satisfied with, taking quite a few of the basic elements from Draven's classic axes and incorporating them into the overall aesthetics of the poleaxes. As mentioned, many of the design elements of the skin are inspired by Draven's classic design, such as the use of rings and spikes and an elaborate, unique belt-buckle, as well as the general color scheme.


If you have any more questions, please post them up and I'll be happy to answer them.

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Finally, Special Thanks to the community for recommending an animation with him eating/breathing fire. I had at least three separate requests for it, and I integrated that into an alternative recall pose for the skin. So, once again, thanks!

Also, I want to take a moment to say thanks to everyone who has been consistently checking back on the thread and bumping it, and, more importantly, spreading the word outside of this thread! I've noticed various people have shared me on other forums, as well as within the LoL forums themselves, and even on Reddit! This means so much to me, and it's fantastic to have such awesome and dedicated supporters! Thank you all so much!

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Here is the original topic if you are interested in taking the poll or seeing the current support numbers: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2572708


Other Stuff:

I made myself a Firedancer Draven Minecraft Skin for the hell of it, so for those of you who play MC and would like to use it, here you are:

Attachment 544715

Also, as a disclaimer, I do give Riot free, full permission to use the ideas and designs posted here. I don't know if this will affect the potential integration of the skin into LoL, but I wanted to make it clear that I neither expect, nor seek, anything from Riot for the skin. I simply want to see the idea integrated into the game

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Final note to Riot if by any stretch of the imagination you do integrate this into LoL: Two favors. 1. Do not change Draven's eye color, and 2. do not remove his mustache. I'm sure a large chunk of the community agrees with this

Enjoy, and thanks everyone!

~ Spookypatrol
All of it is awesome can't wait for more


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Spookypatrol

Senior Member

10-27-2012

Why, thank you :3 I hope all of my later endeavors live up to the popularity of the current stuff.


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dafedidi

Senior Member

10-27-2012

BUMP !

Fire dance for Xmas pls o.o *puppy eyes*


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dafedidi

Senior Member

10-27-2012

Bump


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Spookypatrol

Senior Member

10-27-2012

Yeah, it would be the best Christmas present ever for me if it came out then XD But it's really, really, really unlikely... pretty much next to zero, so I'm not going to hope for it, either.

Also, thank you for the bumps :3


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Spookypatrol

Senior Member

10-28-2012

A couple things:

1. How would you guys feel if I tried to come up with a few new lines of dialogue for the skin? I have no intentions of it being a Legendary skin, so he wouldn't have many new lines if any at all, but making new dialogue seems to be a popular thing, so I wanted to get opinions on that. I've thought of a couple, maybe for an alternative taunt and joke.

For the joke: "Is it hot in here? Nah, it's just me."

Taunt: "If you can't take the heat, don't mess with Draven."

Or such. They're not fantastic, but I need to work on my one-liners anyway. No one said I was funny :P

Anyway, you guys get the idea. Up to you; I won't stress over new dialogue if people don't think it's necessary.

...So that was only one thing. I completely forgot what the other thing I was going to say was... oh well, I said the important one.