This is why 1500-1800 is the real Elo hell

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ILoseByWinning

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12-14-2012

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Originally Posted by Gentlepenguin View Post
I don't know what's funner, watching you cry or repeat false info I feed you on stream chat.
And what false info would that be, Mr. Whiteknight?

Because all I saw and proved was that Hafu boosted the account again.

It's ok, Mr. Whiteknight, go back to playing her fangames since ranked games too hard for you. Or are you waiting for the chance of Hafu boosting your account too?


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ILoseByWinning

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12-15-2012

Bumping again for justice.

Update on more Hafu elo boosting on page 26.


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Supermegalol

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12-20-2012

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooob


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Tiny Chainsaw

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12-20-2012

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Originally Posted by IWinByLosing View Post
Because the majority of players in this elo range are there because of elo jobs. These players give their accounts to better players and those better players raise the elo on that account to gold for them. When the real owner of the account plays again, they are out of their league and get dominated, most likely losing the game for the team.

Want proof?

http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=3756

This player is Hafu. Her real account name is rumay which is at 2200+ elo.

Yesterday, she streamed on the account Hurious (at high 1400 elo) and the title of her stream was "Helping a friend get gold". In the game, when she was losing lane as Ahri, she said: "This is not my account, I usually run mana regen runes."
Edit Update: Since the start of boosting the account, the account is now gold with an elo high of 1575 and currently 1540 elo with over 80% of the games played and won as Ahri. After obtaining gold, no more ranked games were played (currently more than 2 weeks without a ranked game played). Typical elo job behavior as pointed out by Riot staff? Yep.

Today, she's on another friends account Hosebeast doing the same thing, this time at 1200 elo. Although she has not admitted to it being a friend's account yet, her ranked stats say differently. It is clearly not her smurf account. The stats on Ahri on that account are currently 0-3 and less than 2.0 KDA. She is currently 11-1 in the game as Ahri and her usual KDA on her real account as Ahri is ~3.0. In addition, the champions played on this account are not the same as her usual champions on her real account.
Edit Update: Since the start of boosting the account Hosebeast, her record as Ahri is now 22-10 with 3.78 KDA, which started from a record of 0-3 and 1.8 KDA from the real account owner.
Edit Update 2: The account Hosebeast is now at 1422 elo high (currently 1361 elo) from a starting point of ~1200 elo when Hafu started elo jobbing. Same pattern. The majority of the games played and won were on Ahri. Free season 2 silver reward undeservingly.

Elo jobbing her friends accounts to gold, when her friends can't even get to gold themselves, is why true elo hell is at 1500-1800.

Also, that blatant violation of Terms of Service:

C. Login Credentials. In creating an Account, you will be required to select a unique username and password (collectively, “Login Credentials”), which you will use each time you access the Game. You may not share your Account with anyone other than as expressly set forth herein, and you are entirely responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your Login Credentials and for any and all activities (including purchases and charges, as applicable) that are conducted through your Account. Please notify Riot Games immediately if you become aware of any breach of security, including any loss, theft or unauthorized disclosure of your Login Credentials.

Edit: Update: This picture from her twitter account explains it all. Elo jobbing those 1100 elos to gold. Explains why you get those players that go 0-20 even in gold.

Edit: This is not implying that she is the sole reason for bad players at gold, but a solid example of why and how they get to gold. Hafu was only used as an example because the proof was blatantly out in the public and on stream. Other wiser players usually try to keep elo jobs a secret since they are being paid to do it.

Edit: Update: Pic of her stream. Notice the user, which is a moderator in her channel, with the same name as the account she was playing on when she was elo jobbing. This confirms it was definitely not her smurf account. Same with the fourth picture.

Edit: Update 10/12/2012: Hafu has now removed the incriminating evidence from her Twitter account. As seen in the 5th picture compared to the first 2 pictures where she asked for accounts and specifically said "Maybe get silver/gold on? #freeelo".

Edit Update (10/20/2012): Thread about another boosted account, EvilMaran: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...9#post30445759
I honestly don't know how you expect Riot to deal with these types of situations. There is no 100% for sure way of figuring out if someone has ELO boosted or not, at least not a reliable way unless it was blatant as your example.

The real question is, would you rather have legitimate players stripped of their gold ranking wrongly, by implementing a rash system of banning IP addresses?


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ILoseByWinning

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12-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Tiny Chainsaw View Post
I honestly don't know how you expect Riot to deal with these types of situations. There is no 100% for sure way of figuring out if someone has ELO boosted or not, at least not a reliable way unless it was blatant as your example.

The real question is, would you rather have legitimate players stripped of their gold ranking wrongly, by implementing a rash system of banning IP addresses?
I can think of several ways to implement a system to check for elo boosting.

Since people only really start elo-boosting at lvl 30, the account would have the majority of games played on the same IP address pre-lvl 30.

If there is a sudden change in IP address, it would suggest someone else, a.k.a an elo-booster, playing on the account. However, people might just be playing from another location.

Therefore, it would be cross referenced to see if the new IP address is not shared with multiple accounts playing at the same time. This would suggest maybe an internet cafe or a location with many people sharing the same IP, such as a university. If the IP address is shared only by one person, that would suggest it involves 2 different people playing from two different locations. Someone cannot possibly play from Boston one day, then fly to play in Europe the next day, and then back to Boston the next day. (A.K.A: Example of Hafu and the boosted account EvilMaran)

Seriously, how hard is it to check the IPs that played on that account and see that it is physically impossible for it to only be one person playing on that account.

An easy way to prevent legitimate players from being stripped of their rewards wrongly would be for Riot to send a confirmation email to any accounts that have a sudden change in IP address. The email would be to verify that it was the original owner playing on the account. Not many people would be willingly to give the elo-boosters their personal log in information for their emails, more so if the elo-boosters are total strangers who they are paying.


But this is asking too much from RiotYegg. I doubt he can implement this kind of system since he can't even punish a blatant elo-booster when there's a ton of hard evidence proving it.


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And it was K

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12-28-2012

Bump because scumbags should be banned~


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ICallSoloMidPls

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01-12-2013

true


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01-13-2013

wowow


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WILL SMlTH

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01-13-2013

leave Hafu alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Supermegalol

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01-14-2013

Ahh how nice, one of my friends had his account banned for account sharing yesterday, the justice!