Xerath or Brand

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PureKuro

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09-23-2012

Who makes a better mid?


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kronvict

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09-23-2012

I would say brand. Xerath can be countered easily and with the wrong positioning you are a dead man. Brand can get away with it more. Also brand can turn a 2v1 into a 1 v double kill its hilarious. Although a good xerath can really make an enemy team cry when you are raining down fire upon them and they don't even know where u are.


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ZZZappy

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09-23-2012

Xerath. Brand needs a great position to use his R well. Not only does Xerath not need a great position, it does similar damage in the end.


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Vrael27

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09-24-2012

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I would say brand. Xerath can be countered easily and with the wrong positioning you are a dead man. Brand can get away with it more. Also brand can turn a 2v1 into a 1 v double kill its hilarious. Although a good xerath can really make an enemy team cry when you are raining down fire upon them and they don't even know where u are.
you are very wrong, basically none counter Xerath because of his range, Xerath counters all. Fizz counters basically every ap in game, but Xerath rips him to shreds...

but as for thread question, depends on what you prefer, close up burst, or ranged sniping and burst.... also they both have 2 spell stuns, so quite similar, only that having to get up close to stun, for xerath, really is dangerous because of his need for range.


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KBoogz

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09-24-2012

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you are very wrong, basically none counter Xerath because of his range, Xerath counters all. Fizz counters basically every ap in game, but Xerath rips him to shreds...

but as for thread question, depends on what you prefer, close up burst, or ranged sniping and burst.... also they both have 2 spell stuns, so quite similar, only that having to get up close to stun, for xerath, really is dangerous because of his need for range.
This is assuming the person who is playing xerath can actually land his skillshots. Too many noobs these days


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Vrael27

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09-24-2012

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This is assuming the person who is playing xerath can actually land his skillshots. Too many noobs these days
ye, i can't believe how many people can't use skill shots xD. Viktor free weeks was hilarious, soo many Viktors, and that entire week i didn't get hit by a single death ray... just watched the random death rays going in different directions.... lmfao


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Ceron

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09-24-2012

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This is assuming the person who is playing xerath can actually land his skillshots. Too many noobs these days
Saying this suggests that people were ever able to land skillshots. They weren't. Majority of players you'll find won't be able to hit them, or use them recklessly to try to poke and burn their mana.

Now, on the subject at hand, personally I'd say neither because they're both pretty bad right now. But between the two, Brand would be your better pick.

Keep in mind that Brand and Xerath are almost polar opposites. Brand relies on being closer to the enemy, while applying his passive so he can combo the burn effect with the bonus effect of one of his skills. Xerath stays far out of fights and bombards the enemy team.

The problem with Xerath is that damage wise he's very weak, to the point where not rushing as much AP with him will have you scaling horribly in the game. It's kinda surprising though, one of the few characters with passive percentage pen yet lacks damage.

Anyway, Brand is more reliable and more aggressive early game.


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Vrael27

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09-24-2012

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Saying this suggests that people were ever able to land skillshots. They weren't. Majority of players you'll find won't be able to hit them, or use them recklessly to try to poke and burn their mana.

Now, on the subject at hand, personally I'd say neither because they're both pretty bad right now. But between the two, Brand would be your better pick.

Keep in mind that Brand and Xerath are almost polar opposites. Brand relies on being closer to the enemy, while applying his passive so he can combo the burn effect with the bonus effect of one of his skills. Xerath stays far out of fights and bombards the enemy team.

The problem with Xerath is that damage wise he's very weak, to the point where not rushing as much AP with him will have you scaling horribly in the game. It's kinda surprising though, one of the few characters with passive percentage pen yet lacks damage.

Anyway, Brand is more reliable and more aggressive early game.
untrue. Xerath can dish out large amount of dmg easy, and can snipe almost any enemy that tries to escape. They're different in ways, but they're both very strong and have different pros. this noob here just doesn't like casters cause he doesn't know how to use them. But either played effectively can make all the difference in teamfights, and almost always easily shred mid lane. Xerath can simply harass the enemy from the FoW and hit every time, as i do when i play Xerath, or if you go Brand you can run up to enemy, stun, pillar of fire under them, then ult IF NECESSARY, usually isn't. either way, you can rape your lane opponent, difference between the 2... brand's ult bounces, and his main dmg spell (pillar of fire) is short range, making Brand a short range caster, Xerath however is one of the most ranged champs in the game due to his ability to snipe people from a distance. If played correctly, Xerath can do more dmg than almost any other mage, and without being in range for the enemy team to retaliate.


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Reaver78

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09-24-2012

Playstyle will be a big part of this decision. And despite the claim that Xerath counters all, remember that mobility champs like Ahri are a strong counter to Xerath mid, or any skillshotter for that matter.

If you know your limits and know when to poke, Xerath is a beast in laning phase and wreaks havoc in team fights. That being said, Brand has a bit more reliable burst without resulting to his ult.


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Vrael27

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09-24-2012

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Playstyle will be a big part of this decision. And despite the claim that Xerath counters all, remember that mobility champs like Ahri are a strong counter to Xerath mid, or any skillshotter for that matter.

If you know your limits and know when to poke, Xerath is a beast in laning phase and wreaks havoc in team fights. That being said, Brand has a bit more reliable burst without resulting to his ult.
yes it takes a good Xerath player to do well, but really even ahri can't counter a good Xerath player, just cause of the fact that he can farm and harass from a larger distance than any other champ. although Brand definitely has more burst with without his ult than Xerath does, Xerath kinda revolves around his ult. but that's not so bad since he has a really low cd ult, and with a cd item, that gets even better, and even when he doesn't have his ult, he can still stun and snipe.


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