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Dodge runes in this day and age

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Carados

Senior Member

09-15-2010

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JoeDuo:
That's 12.69 armor, and that armor will reduce all physical damage by up to 12.69%.

Assuming you have zero armor.

And I'm fairly sure that isn't the actual formula but whatever.


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ALargeBear

Senior Member

09-15-2010

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JoeDuo:
That's 12.69 armor, and that armor will reduce all physical damage by up to 12.69%.

6.75% dodge will reduce auto-attack damage by up to 6.75%.

It's your choice.


Wrong. Reduction isn't linear. Damage reduction is (armour/(armour+100)). On a non-tank at late game, you'll maybe get an extra 5-6% damage reduction from that 12.69 armour. If their carries are hitting for 600 damage crits though, the 30~ damage reduction isn't going to help you. The chance to completely evade the attack will.

Additionally, dodge can proc as many times as it wants with RNG's. You could have 1% dodge and dodge 20 attacks in a row. It's VERY unlikely, but it's possible.


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Carados

Senior Member

09-15-2010

His logic is that at 100 armor you are completely immune to physical damage.


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mustcontain1

Recruiter

09-15-2010

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Sevrin:

Is there something I'm missing here? I've been very close to throwing my dodge yellows into the rune combiner for some time now


You are missing the answer to this question: is Amumu's Tantrum still triggered if the attack was dodged?


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Nick

Member

09-15-2010

No tantrum doesn't trigger when dodged, but I use it with amumu anyways because its just such a great stat and nibleness procs are pretty awesome.


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JoeDuo

Senior Member

09-15-2010

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ALargeBear:
Wrong. Reduction isn't linear. Damage reduction is (armour/(armour+100)). On a non-tank at late game, you'll maybe get an extra 5-6% damage reduction from that 12.69 armour. If their carries are hitting for 600 damage crits though, the 30~ damage reduction isn't going to help you. The chance to completely evade the attack will.

Additionally, dodge can proc as many times as it wants with RNG's. You could have 1% dodge and dodge 20 attacks in a row. It's VERY unlikely, but it's possible.

Yes, sorry, I just did a quick reply without doing the whole math. Let me try again.

That's 12.69 armor, and that armor will reduce all physical damage by up to 11.26%.

6.75% dodge will reduce auto-attack damage by up to 6.75%.

The effectiveness of both stats, versus physical auto-attack, will reach equity at 75 armor after armor penetration & co.


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Carados

Senior Member

09-15-2010

Assuming you have zero armor.


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EequaltoMC2

Recruiter

09-15-2010

Yeah, i agree, dont combine those dodge seals just yet, ya never know when a champ might come out with +500% damage per 2% dodge or somethin


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JoeDuo

Senior Member

09-15-2010

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Carados:
Assuming you have zero armor.

Armor reduction and penetration will help quite a bit with that.


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Carados

Senior Member

09-15-2010

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JoeDuo:
Armor reduction and penetration will help quite a bit with that.

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