New upgrade for Glacial Shroud?

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Tejesh

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08-17-2012

Glacial Shroud (1525): +425 Mana, +45 Armor, UNIQUE Passive: 15% Cooldown Reduction
Kindlegem (850): +200 Health, UNIQUE Passive: 10% Cooldown Reduction
Ruby Crystal (475): +180 Health

Guardsman's Miracle (500 combine + 2850) = 3350
+500 Mana
+450 Health
+50 Armor
UNIQUE Passive: 25% Cooldown Reduction
UNIQUE Passive: Gain 3 Mana, 3 Health and 1 Armor for every unit killed. Bonuses cap at 33 stacks.


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Velpro

Senior Member

08-17-2012

Umm.. no Frozen Heart is all we need.


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JustMyBassCannon

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08-17-2012

549 HP, 599 MP, 83 Armor and 25% CDR

Umm, that's actually really powerful. Against physical damage, if this item existed it would actually be the largest increase in life expectancy in the game. Other items you either get pure armor, pure HP, or a very low amount of both.

Even if you were playing a caster who didn't have Mana, the amount of physical defense +25% CDR would be insanely good for them, worth the cost of the mana in the recipe (and if they DID use the mana, it'd just be one of the few defense items that is cost-efficient, and it would be the most efficient of the defensive items).


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Iliketurtle

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08-18-2012

yes haters can stop for sure


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FistOf7Dragons

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08-18-2012

singed op


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Darthbob131

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08-19-2012

With this item and Sunfire Cape you can just give up trying to take down bruisers with AD unless you have Last Whisper.

Also it looks like it should build out of a catalyst and yet also gives 25% cdr!


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GurkenMAN

Senior Member

08-19-2012

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Originally Posted by Tejesh View Post
Glacial Shroud (1525): +425 Mana, +45 Armor, UNIQUE Passive: 15% Cooldown Reduction
Kindlegem (850): +200 Health, UNIQUE Passive: 10% Cooldown Reduction
Ruby Crystal (475): +180 Health

Guardsman's Miracle (500 combine + 2850) = 3350
+500 Mana
+450 Health
+50 Armor
UNIQUE Passive: 25% Cooldown Reduction
UNIQUE Passive: Gain 3 Mana, 3 Health and 1 Armor for every unit killed. Bonuses cap at 33 stacks.
Agree with making another upgrade for GS.
But this is too similar to Frozenheart and btw huge Armor and health on 1 Item is not what RIOT wants balancewise i think. Thats why sunfire sucks kinda for its price.

But a semioffensive Upgrade for GS would be nice (like a +20%AS-Aura in contrast to FH maybe) or maybe even give AP/AD and Armor (only Atma and Zhonyas do this now i think)


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Nalydyn

Senior Member

08-20-2012

I like the glacial shroud second upgrade idea, but you cant have that many stats on one item. I would say maybe give it AD. Like pickaxe+GS+ruby crystal=15% CDR, 350 health, 50 armor, 30 AD, and a passive aura like, 5% CDR and +10 AD. Maybe up some of those numbers, but you cant have that item... It makes FH completely pointless lol.


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Douggie

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08-20-2012

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Even if you were playing a caster who didn't have Mana, the amount of physical defense +25% CDR would be insanely good for them, worth the cost of the mana in the recipe
Hell Frozen Heart is already so good on tanky casters it's worth the wasted mana. Sees a lot of play on my Mordekaiser, Akali, and Garen. Essentially giving it HP and more CDR on top of this would be totally bogus.


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Certified

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08-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Exdeadman View Post
549 HP, 599 MP, 83 Armor and 25% CDR

Umm, that's actually really powerful. Against physical damage, if this item existed it would actually be the largest increase in life expectancy in the game. Other items you either get pure armor, pure HP, or a very low amount of both.

Even if you were playing a caster who didn't have Mana, the amount of physical defense +25% CDR would be insanely good for them, worth the cost of the mana in the recipe (and if they DID use the mana, it'd just be one of the few defense items that is cost-efficient, and it would be the most efficient of the defensive items).
Frozen Heart reduces an AD carry's overall damage by... 20%... No matter who they're targetting... Making a champion 20% less effective... Frozen Heart is easily the best item in the entire game right now, because so much emphasis is put into the AD carry's damage...

This item suggestion would be just like SunFire Cape, but with Mana, CDR + a different passive...
Frozen Heart is still much better, but this item suggestion makes SFC look really bad...

I think that maybe it should either take longer to stack, like Warmogs... Or, half stacks lost upon death, like Blood Thirster...
Reduce the CDR to either 15% or 20%, 25% is too high... Maybe reduce the HP also...


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