Jungle tank suggestions

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GoldSoundz89

Junior Member

08-05-2012

Tanky junglers:
Mundo
Nautilus
Malphite
Maokai
Alistar
Amumu
Shen
Rammus
Volibear

Rammus and Volibear are much less common, for various reasons. Shen a little bit less common than the best or most common junglers, but his ult makes ganking quite vicious.

And the best jungler right now is definitely not Udyr. He can't initiate well without Flash in the current meta, and gets kited hard by way too many champions. It's not his sustainability or clear speed that is the issue...it's his ganking and teamfighting capabilities that let him down at the moment.

Mundo, Lee Sin, Trundle, Maokai, Nocturne, and Nautilus are probably the top junglers at the moment. They all transition very well and excel at multiple facets of jungling (technically excepting Lee Sin, but his early game can get him fed well enough to transition reasonably). Skarner, Jarvan IV, Riven, Shyvana, Olaf are all great junglers as well.


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AlphariusRising

Member

08-05-2012

Udyr is an extremely good jungler, his ganks are amazing, or were you not aware the bear stance gives you preposterous movespeed? In teamfights he fulfills the role of Tank or Bruiser, depending on how he's build, at least as well as Lee Sin.


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Lajinn5

Senior Member

08-05-2012

mundo goes where he pleases


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08-05-2012

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GoldSoundz89

Junior Member

08-05-2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphariusRising View Post
Udyr is an extremely good jungler, his ganks are amazing, or were you not aware the bear stance gives you preposterous movespeed? In teamfights he fulfills the role of Tank or Bruiser, depending on how he's build, at least as well as Lee Sin.
+15% movespeed from Bear Stance (which is what it will be until 13+) is hardly what I'd call "preposterous" movespeed when so many champs have dashes, escapes and stuns (in retaliation) these days (Riven, Renekton, Irelia, Vlad, Ahri, Kennen all come to mind). Udyr needs Flash to initiate and guarantee a successful gank. Otherwise he just can't put enough on an opponent before they get away. You could argue "lol put X champ in dat lane and ezganks," but then the question just becomes why make ganking so much harder by picking Udyr as a jungler for ganking when other champs simply gank much better than Udyr, especially when combined with that awesome top lane champion?

I'm not saying Udyr's a bad jungler (still clears, sustains like a boss): I'm just saying the meta right now just hates on him because Udyr needs Flash to guarantee a gank and because he can get kited rather easily (otherwise Udyr starts to fall behind the opposing jungler). Just try to gank a smart Ashe or an Irelia, or a Riven. You can't do it well with Udyr when Lee Sin, Nautilus, Maokai, Alistar and many others just gank much harder than Udyr.

For teamfights, I just don't see Udyr as holding up any more in comparison to other junglers. Shyvana is similar to Udyr but can absolutely dominate teamfights with her ult's increased damage, tanky bits, and AoE. Udyr has none of that. Looking at the other top tier junglers, they all bring something fight-changing to the table: Mundo/Alistar never dies, Nautilus chains CC, Maokai's %DR ult, J4 just dunks, Malphite and Amumu just R2win, etc. etc., but Udyr doesn't really have that. He has a 1s stun. Not bad, but when you look at what all the other top tier junglers have, Udyr just doesn't have the kit for beasting teamfights anymore.

Udyr's just not the best jungler anymore. There are quite a few champs that just have better overall kits given the current state of the game, that's all.


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KaltraX

Member

08-05-2012

Malph gets banned


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