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Hide and Seek Rules Redone.

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Orenin

Senior Member

08-13-2012

Quote:
DoomScar:
The idea of hide and seek alone is a really nice idea.
But putting too much thought and mechanics into it just makes it not enjoyable.
Think of ARAM. Simple rules. Easy to pick up on. Easy to learn. People liked it because you don't need to spend 5 minutes in the forums to memorize the rules.

ARAM: Stay in middle lane. You can't recall. You can't use teleport. Done.

Hide and Seek: Do this and do that you can't do this and that and all this other sh*t that you'd probably forgot once you're ingame.

tl;dr make it more simple, please?


its pretty simple already


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kosepaa

Member

08-14-2012

Fail mode warning:

Quote:
-Hiders should work together to stay alive and force the Seekers to recall.


Really? Are you this naive? You just made this mode terribly and irreversably one sided. This means that you have 5 vs 2, and those 5 only need to take away ~90% of each of the seekers HP? I repeat, really? So now hiders don't hide, they build attack damage, gank those to poor suckerz, who are trying to have fun, leave them with X% health each, and game over...

Please change this. Or at least explain how you imagine this working out to create a fair game mode, because whatever you imagined, it aint happenning.


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kosepaa

Member

08-14-2012

Maybe making hiders only be abble to get non damage items will balance that mistake.


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kosepaa

Member

08-14-2012

My suggestion for items that hiders can have:

All boots ( - Sorcerer's Shoes)
Phantom Dancer
Shurelya's Reverie
Force of Nature

All armour items ( - Atma's Impaler, Sunfire Cape, Wriggle's,Madred's )

Any item that doesn't have more than 20 AP/AD


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PGC SexBoy

Member

08-14-2012

selfish mode on


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Galaxious

Junior Member

08-17-2012

Quote:
kosepaa:
Fail mode warning:



Really? Are you this naive? You just made this mode terribly and irreversably one sided. This means that you have 5 vs 2, and those 5 only need to take away ~90% of each of the seekers HP? I repeat, really? So now hiders don't hide, they build attack damage, gank those to poor suckerz, who are trying to have fun, leave them with X% health each, and game over...

Please change this. Or at least explain how you imagine this working out to create a fair game mode, because whatever you imagined, it aint happenning.

I agree, the 5 can camp together and drop the seekers to low hp without getting hurt and they can just repeat that till they win.


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Campeen

Senior Member

08-17-2012

Yeah, right until you get to here:
"-Hiders may use all of their abilities and auto attacks against the Seekers"
"-Hiders should work together to stay alive and force the Seekers to recall"
it's bad.

This promotes the camp in bush, try to murder seeker mentality. This is anti-fun, because it's needlessly making the game a chore of returning to base for no reason for the seeker, while the hiders have only one option: clumping together to chain damage.

In a perfect game of Hide & Seek, the Hiders would not do any damage at all. Maybe Seekers have 5000 armour or something so that CC can be applied; or seekers are just immune to all damage and hiders have to rely on the CC on spells alone instead of frozen mallets and rylai's.

The most fun in Hide & Seek is finding a nice hiding spot, predicting where they're going to search stealthily moving around, running away and juking. All of this has counter-play, so it's fun for both sides.

Forcing seekers to go back is only fun for one side, just as seekers camping your base is only fun for seekers.


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KesslerCOIL

Senior Member

08-18-2012

Quote:
Nerdyjoe314:
>-All items are available.
>-Guardian Angel is not allowed

Well, which one is it?

learn to read.
All items are available to seekers

Guardian Angel is not permitted to Hiders


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Kreyni

Senior Member

08-18-2012

Why is Clairvoyance banned and Hextech Sweeper, which basically does the same thing, not banned?

Also, only one oracle on the seeker team seems better instead of "any item is allowed".


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Arclune

Senior Member

08-18-2012

Question:

Rammus, Max Armor, Thornmail, and W. OK?