@Morello; Give me one good reason why you can't lower Grave's AA range

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Zerothma

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07-28-2012

I was under the impression that graves had short-ish range because his buckshot rewards being close and his passive makes him tankier to offset that.

Sivir has short range because... she has a spellshield to offset that? Well, I'm not sure of the reasoning, but Graves' passive helps offset his short range, while Sivir has her E move for a situational shield that attempts to do the same thing. The more I think about it, the better Graves seems. Really, Sivir should have her range pumped up to 525.


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Zerglinator

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07-28-2012

Jayce is said to be a bad AD Carry solely on the basis of his low AA range.

What would this make Graves?


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Gløry

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07-28-2012

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Originally Posted by Ask the Monkey View Post
Graves' not Grave's
actually Graves's*


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Awaen

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07-28-2012

I doubt it'd break him. He's already got that passive, buckshot, and quick draw.


And Jayce is an interesting choice as an ad carry since he benefits a LOT from running an aggressive lane (Taric, Leona, Blitz). At level 2-3, he has a good 4-6 skills to throw down and it can do quite a bit. Maybe not as much at higher elos, but lower level it's funny.


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Alyran

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07-28-2012

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Originally Posted by Glry View Post
actually Graves's*
Graves' and Graves's are both technically correct. It's a style choice.


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ragerranger35

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07-28-2012

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Jayce is said to be a bad AD Carry solely on the basis of his low AA range.

What would this make Graves?
Yes but Graves has burst, a dash and a tank passive for his short range. And Jayce is not completely an ad carry. His kit isint designed for an ad carry (Ofc im not saying you cant play him like an ad carry)


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Gespens

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07-28-2012

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Its still not comparable to Graves' burst.
Its actually higher.


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ToddLee

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07-28-2012

You know a thread is bad once the grammar police show up.


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Zerglinator

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07-28-2012

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Originally Posted by ragerranger35 View Post
Yes but Graves has burst, a dash and a tank passive for his short range. And Jayce is not completely an ad carry. His kit isint designed for an ad carry (Ofc im not saying you cant play him like an ad carry)
Burst: Shock Blasts, especially ones that go through Acceleration Gate.

Dash: His passive gives him a short MS boost and ignores collision, he has To The Skies! and Acceleration Gate.

Tank Passive: Well, not exactly a passive, but Hammer Mode gets tanky powers.


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Fishous

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07-28-2012

If anything, I'd rather they enabled you to cast Q a second time to bring it back earlier.


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