Kay so it's time to get real about Nasus

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Darmikau

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07-28-2012

Late night bump


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Deedsie

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07-28-2012

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Yeah but then you miss out on your burst AP caster.
Veigar/Soraka bottom with Jungle Faddles or Cho'Gath?


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Anthropics

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07-28-2012

I know it's an unpopular opinion, but Nasus is a victim of the massive powercreep going on in top lane. Blanket nerfs to some of these newer bruisers are needed, as the overall power level of top lane has just skyrocketed in the past few months; we went from Renekton to Riven as the early game dominator, from Irelia to Yorick as the immovable object, etc. With relatively few changes to their kits, Singed, Nasus, and Cho'gath suddenly aren't seen nearly as often as they used to be.


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Keletain

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07-28-2012

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Vivicide

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07-28-2012

I like his kit but he plays just to passively and he cant help his teamates to much(unless they cater to him) in team fights so I say we should remake him to make him a little better


His q, Can we add a movespeed buff to it (think garen's q, hit q than run until you attack) you'll still be able to farm like usual but that small buff should give him a way to actually gank now.

His w should be apart of his e(read about that down there) and should buff him some how.

Nasus could use a "gank time button" kind of a switch from farm mode to gank mode, was just thinking atk speed/defensive increasements. Just not Damage, Lifesteal, or something wierd.

His e Should be an aoe slow and atk speed reducer, so in that tiny circle (smaller than akali/anivia/trundle's circe) you have some slow (to everyone in it) an atk speed reducer and a way to hold the enemy down while you get ready to roll over them.

His r should stay the same, he doesn't need THAT much cc now.


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Str3SSed

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07-28-2012

Riot wanted to put a cap on his Q so they could buff him elsewhere and make him viable. Guess what happened? The community made a mass QQ fest and protested teh change. Riot gave in to the community QQ and didn't change him.


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Incendiax

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07-28-2012

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Originally Posted by Darmikau View Post
Late night bump
Hey buddy. I've also seen Nasus as a victim of what you're speaking of. However I'm experimenting with something that revolutionizes Nasus as we know him. Check out my match history for referance; AP Nasus. If you build him as a mage tank, he does REALLY well in lane, and in all phases of the game. His MR is similar to Galio's, while maintaining high amounts of mixed damage through Q/E. You can safely farm your Q in mid and not worry about getting harassed or losing trades. Your passive gives you nice natural sustain, and your Wither is VERY effective.
The trick to this is maxing Spirit Fire. You do a sizable amount of damage with it, can counter-push extremely well and set yourself up for easy Q last hits. Best of all; it reduces enemy armor by 40 at max rank. This allows you to nuke them with E, keep them in the AoE for longer with wither, then deal true damage with a very farmed Siphon Strike. You can very easily get fed with this method, and you are near impossible to gank.

The build works because of one, VERY misunderstood mechanic; his ultimate. You can get your ult dealing an upwards of 10% HP/second lategame, maxing out to 240 magic damage per second ON ALL ENEMIES. 6.375% of that damage is converted to bonus AD per person, so that equals out 15 bonus AD per person, per second. In ganks, you gain +20ad per second that stacks. Meaning you can get +100 bonus AD while you're being ganked, Wither the AD ganking you, E nuke the AP carry then go to town with a ridiculous Q.
In teamfights, proper R'ing can get you +80AD per second. This can stack up to OVER +800AD if you do it properly. At that point, you are a monster. Your E hits for over 500 burst, then +100 per tick. All the while, your team is benefitting as the enemy has -40 armor by standing on the AoE. With your Rylai's, the entire enemy team will be slowed by at least 15% by either being near you, or standing on your E.

Runes;
mPen marks x9
Ap/lvl seals x9
Ap/lvl glyphs x9
AP quints x3

9/21/0 masteries, focusing on mPen in offense, and stacking straight up the defense tree.

Common build;
Meki pendant + hp pot x2
Chalice of Harmony+Boots

Mercury's Treads into Giant's Belt, then you build a Zhonya's from there. Rylai's into a Deathcap or a Guardian Angel depending on how the game is going, then go for your Lich Bane. You can go for more survivability with an Abyssal Scepter instead of a Deathcap if you desire. Your Q will be well farmed (+300 bonus), and the lich bane proc will have it doing well over 800.

Final build should be;
Mercury's Treads>Rylai's>Zhonya's>Guardian Angel>Deathcap>Lich Bane

Note: your R still saps AD from the enemies while in Zhonya's+ resurrecting from GA.

you're a pain to focus because then your AD can rape them, you deal ridiculous damage to squishies and tanks alike with your R+E, and you have massive utility with your Rylai'd Wither slow. People barely know that his E reduces their armor by 40, and are too busy to notice that they're standing on it in teamfights.

Lategame you can take down towers with ease, and 3~4 shot Inhibitors AND the nexus with your lich bane Q.

Please try it out and tell me how it works [:


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Meatzombie

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07-28-2012

Bump, a well written and well thought out post. real quick though, have you ever tried AP nasus?
EDIT: Shen'd
2x EDIT: Also, Tanky AP nasus can solo baron at 11 if you are good, 16 anyway


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lol I died again

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07-28-2012

Currently the only hyper carry left now that Twitch has been nerfed.


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Asderition

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07-28-2012

OP, thank you sir. In addition, people talk up his passive far to often. Conceptually and like you said OP, on paper it is fantastic. The problem is to get the usefulness of the passive is by hitting creeps. A q every several second (if that) will not keep you alright. Pick a top character, anyone with a little but of range can keep you slowly dwindling in health. You have to put yourself in harms way to utilize the lifesteal and secure cs, and with the points you have provided, to get any real life from the passive is by using siphon, or the health recieved will be negated and then some by the poke you will get for auto attacking. In short, his passive is **** near useless against a even slightly skilled top.


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