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Zyra, Rise of the Thorns, Now Available

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glemmstengal

Senior Member

07-24-2012

oh look a fire skin! lol


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Lews Therrin

Senior Member

07-24-2012

Yeah, she definitely needs to be balanced.


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April Kiss

Recruiter

07-24-2012

zyra's ultimate has no damage on champions... are there any bug on her ultimate?;
it only airbornes enemy champions and deals no damage
Please fix this as soon as possible.


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Çreep3r

Senior Member

07-24-2012

anyone know where the release notes are?


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Beija

Senior Member

07-25-2012

Champion sneak peek this Thursday I assume?


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MareksGregs

Member

07-25-2012

LOL at the "Features of more in-depth look at Zyra"
She seriously isn't that big of a deal, come on now Riot!


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AlbinoDruid

Junior Member

07-25-2012

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justinca92:
zyra's ultimate has no damage on champions... are there any bug on her ultimate?;
it only airbornes enemy champions and deals no damage
Please fix this as soon as possible.


Nah, it is working fine, but you may not be noticing that, while the knock-up has a delay before it takes place, the damage is applied instantly (or so... it is applied as the plant spreads outward, so instantly on champions in the middle of the targeted area, and soon after to champs on its edge). The damage is still applied, but it is separate from the knock-up that you are expecting to apply the damage.


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serina870

Junior Member

07-25-2012

Zyra's great if you know how to play her. I played with someone who sucked so hard. In my opinion learn how to play someone before playing PvP


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Mr EloHell

Junior Member

07-25-2012

so OP need's nerf


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AlbinoDruid

Junior Member

07-25-2012

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AlbinoDruid:
Well, alright, I suppose this can be the first post of my LoL career.

She is definitely a fun idea... With the proper set-up (such as planting at least two seeds in the ground), she can do fairly great damage, but if the seeds are not set up, then her damage just falls off the charts. Despite a very good multi-target snare and slowing affect from some of her plants (or all of them with Rylai's, as her Thorn Spitters do proc the slow from spells), the snare's slow travel rate and easily predicted path make it difficult to lock down kills with her. She can be GREAT at securing ganks, but otherwise she has a pretty hard time of it. Her ult has a REALLY long delay before it knocks champions up, although the damage is thankfully applied right away. Good for a burst in team fights, but I've yet to see the knock-up really make a difference, as by the time the knock-up procs people are pretty much dead or out of the area. These seeds are also exceptionally easy to spot, detonate, etc. They function well as exceptionally limited wards, and may be very useful in spotting Baron or Dragon attempts, but I think they are too easily countered if, say, your opponent has a brain.

Because the seeds are really what make or break her character, I would consider giving them some sort of buff, be it that they become invisible or must be targeted to be destroyed.

I get the feeling that her AP ratios or perhaps the base damage of her Deadly Bloom and Grasping Roots may be a little low, but that is difficult to say. Again, with the right set up (and enough un-detonated seeds in the area of effect), all of the sudden her damage sky-rockets. But this makes her reliant on a pretty decent amount of set-up in order to achieve her full potential. An ideal team fight would allow her to plant seeds, Deadly Bloom on top of them into a Stranglethorns on the area followed by a swift snare, but team fights are quick and many may just be too fast to pull off a combination like that unless the tanks are down-right amazing.

I have the feeling that, once she hits level 2, she might make for an amazing jungler, but she seems like she'd be really vulnerable until she had unlocked both Deadly Bloom and Rampant Growth.

Of course, it is REALLY early in the evening (or feels that way) and so I shouldn't be judging her too harshly after a matter of hours! Overall, I am enjoying her, and I really want to play a game with her alongside Maokai for the greatest lane-combo ever! Thanks Riot for the new champion (would it have killed you to keep her as... soft... as she appeared in the art preview, though --_n)!


I take it back. While I think my earlier criticism of her is accurate... well, she's fun as hell, and timing the seeds is really a lot easier than I thought it was! Thanks, Riot, for a wonderful champ. Between her and Mao, I may never need another!