question about elo and good players

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FirstSlayer09

Senior Member

07-19-2012

If a good player was stuck in low elo, wouldn't he be able to dominate and carry his team?

Or maybe I don't yet fully understand the elo system.


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Andarel

Senior Member

07-19-2012

Yes. If a player is below their elo they will (on average) do well, which will help his team win more than lose, which will raise the player's elo. Players don't have one specific elo though - it is more accurate to say that they have a range and that their current elo falls within that range. As they improve, that range inches up, and as they play they will generally move towards the average or upper end.


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FirstSlayer09

Senior Member

07-19-2012

thank you Andarel another question. Can a player keep doing well and inching up their elo to a point where they are getting matched with highly skilled players? Wouldn't he/she just spiral downwards at that point again?


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BStein

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Senior Member

07-19-2012

what you said is pretty much spot on. if you play at a consent skill level you will see a rise or fall based on your game play. i belive the reason you are asking this question is because u see a lot of people complaining about 'elo hell' and those people normally have not played many matches so the rating system has not had a chance to place them into the elo they belong to or they think they are better then they really are and need to make an excuse for being at that elo.


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Panzerfaust

Emissary of the League

07-19-2012

It's not as if there are two types of players, okay players and good players, and after beating okay players enough you get matched with the good players.

It's a spectrum, as you keep winning you face gradually and gradually tougher opponents. If you ever reach a point where you're too high then yes, you'll drop down a bit, but it's not as if getting matched with someone above your skill level means you'll lose the next ten games.


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BStein

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07-19-2012

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Originally Posted by FirstSlayer09 View Post
thank you Andarel another question. Can a player keep doing well and inching up their elo to a point where they are getting matched with highly skilled players? Wouldn't he/she just spiral downwards at that point again?
if you are inching up you are improving your own skill, why it may not seem that way you really are. so by the time u are matched with highly skilled players you too are highly skilled.

now if you just shoot up to a high elo with out the time to improve your own skill set then yes it is likely you will fall just as fast as you climbed.


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Andarel

Senior Member

07-19-2012

Picture this: Your "true" ELO is 1700, but by bad luck your placement games put you at 1050. You're much better than others at your ELO, so you win four games in a row, then lose two, win two and lose one. You're now up to about 1110. You should have a positive trend, and eventually you will hit 1600. Around then you've got a lot harder competition, so your win rate ends up slightly positive, inching you up to 1700. If you're on a roll you might hit 1800, but your win rate ends up slightly negative, dropping you back down a little into the 1700s. Over enough games, you'll find your range (usually, Riot has pointed out, between your max ELO and 150 points below it).


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FirstSlayer09

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07-19-2012

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Picture this: Your "true" ELO is 1700, but by bad luck your placement games put you at 1050. You're much better than others at your ELO, so you win four games in a row, then lose two, win two and lose one. You're now up to about 1110. You should have a positive trend, and eventually you will hit 1600. Around then you've got a lot harder competition, so your win rate ends up slightly positive, inching you up to 1700. If you're on a roll you might hit 1800, but your win rate ends up slightly negative, dropping you back down a little into the 1700s. Over enough games, you'll find your range (usually, Riot has pointed out, between your max ELO and 150 points below it).
Ok that is a little bit tough to understand. But thanks for everyone clearing it up for me and answering my questions


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Delvoire

Member

07-19-2012

How do you know what your ELO is? What is it?


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Panzerfaust

Emissary of the League

07-19-2012

Elo is only visible for ranked games, which have a separate Elo than normal.

Normal Elo is hidden, but while you cannot see it, it is still there.


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