Ashe ECA question

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Pieson

Senior Member

09-05-2010

So, I'm wondering how to best use ECA in a teamfight. Is it best used as an initiator, best saved for people who start running, or best used if your team starts loosing and you need to turn the tide of the battle?

Also, on a separate note, what's the bonus of launching ECA from the fountain, if any?


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Eppa

Senior Member

09-05-2010

It depends on your tank/makeup, ECA is mostly used as an initiator/right after you have initiated, pretty much when the cc is the most important.


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Ensign Drej

Senior Member

09-05-2010

No bonus on using ECA on your fountain, except regaining the mana. As for using it in teamfights, use it generally when your team initiates, on squishies that would otherwise damage your team, that way your team has a greater chance of winning. Also, don't be afraid to take gutsy skill shots to take out runners from a quarter to halfway across the map. By the time you get into a real teamfight, you'll probably have it off CD again. I've pulled of some pretty gnarly shots with it to take down enemies.

However, if you don't have people like Amumu or Malphite or even Xin Zhao to initiate, use it to nail a straying squishy, if possible, then take their team down.

A last note, be willing to use ECA to escape if you end up in a situation where you're the last one alive and haven't used it. It's better being alive to defend with no ult than being dead with it, and having the enemy team richer.


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Anjiin

Junior Member

09-05-2010

It's just a utility skill. There is no best time to use it so the only question that needs to be asked is "Will firing benefit?". Shooting from pool is great to restore her small mana pool, but if the target has no penalty from the stun there is no point. The obvious sign of a bad Ashe is seeing an arrow flying where there is no benefit. It's not a harassing skill, it shouldn't be used to damage, the only reason for it to be used is the stun.
Therefore whenever a stun can help, an arrow can be fired. That being said, it's a great initiator even if you have an Amumu or Malphite simply because the mindset of most players lead them to circle around the stunned teammate. It isn't good to be used while in a team fight because the stun is short and hitting a valid champion is too difficult. Helping your team kill or run is always the best use for it.


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Carados

Senior Member

09-05-2010

It's one of the best initiation spells in the game.

If you can start the fight with it when there wouldn't be a fight, use it then.

If you can use it to break a channel or allow your team to focus a hard character to focus (Ezreal, for example), use it then.

If you can use it to catch the last runner that will make your life hell when you push? Use it then.

If you can use it to cover an escape as you're losing, use it then, but why didn't you use it before?.


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ZWulf

Member

09-06-2010

It depends on what the situations calls. It can be use save ur allies, initiate if the odds is in your favor and deadly when use during in between the fights as your enemies hp is at mid range...


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Kazeikan

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09-06-2010

U can do the ward trick, where u ward mid, b back, fire the arrow and then anticipate when the arrow is gonig to hit in 4 seconds time and teleport in and kill.

Theres a vid for that trickshot.

Also, you can snipe people across the map and cause of the nature of the spell being on a 60 second (45 with 40% CDR), u can use it every minute.


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HanzGruber

Senior Member

09-06-2010

ECA is also one of the easiest skills to use for stopping a channeling champion, since it bypasses minions. If the other team has any champ with a channeling ult it might be best to hold onto it.