Basically RiotNome Said TT Won't Get Fixed

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HKnux5112

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07-07-2012

Just read his posts from a few weeks ago, and said he's tried moving around the Nexus turret, changing the minion pathing lanes, etc.

He said none of them work. I'm pretty sure they'd work, why should we believe you? Sure, you make tons of money and have a great job, but, w/e.

Why not just do it anyways, or figure out WHY it isn't working, and do it. We all agree that TT is a fun map, but has it flaws. Hey, the jungling is getting better, but that's the ONLY update you'll see on TT for a loooong time, I promise you that.


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HKnux5112

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07-07-2012

Down vote all you people want, it won't change anything.


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Th3 Herbalist

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07-07-2012

When you start working at Riot, you can criticize them.

Nome has stated that he IS working on things to fix in TT. That's his job. There's just some things that he can't do because it's either not practical or too time consuming.. so he's doing the things he can first.

Things like the bruiser meta he said he couldn't change. That's the fault of the map design. I don't think most TT players want that to change anyway, it's extremely fun (well, i won't speak for everybody, but i don't mind the meta). However, he did say that things like the randomized jungle, lack of blue buff, and the uneven spawn lasers he IS working on, and in the long term there was mention of TT-specific items.

So before you start crying, start actually reading what's said.


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Realyst

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07-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Cryogen1x View Post
When you start working at Riot, you can criticize them.

Nome has stated that he IS working on things to fix in TT. That's his job. There's just some things that he can't do because it's either not practical or too time consuming.. so he's doing the things he can first.

Things like the bruiser meta he said he couldn't change. That's the fault of the map design. I don't think most TT players want that to change anyway, it's extremely fun (well, i won't speak for everybody, but i don't mind the meta). However, he did say that things like the randomized jungle, lack of blue buff, and the uneven spawn lasers he IS working on, and in the long term there was mention of TT-specific items.

So before you start crying, start actually reading what's said.
Not to pick on RiotNome, but speaking as an SQL programmer and former DOTA map designer, I can say changing TT is very easy, and requires very little effort. The only way a Nexus/turret swap would be difficult, would be if everything was hardcoded (which it obviously is not). They use the same Turret and Nexus model in all 4 of their maps, which means they are oriented objects, which means it's essentially a copy/paste away from changing. Then you simply swap out the minion pathing vectors, Turret radius vectors, and fountain laser vectors, and boom you're done. It would take a maximum of a week, assuming you get a week of off-time to sit down and work on it. This whole 'year per map' deal Riot has going on, and months to make extremely minor changes, is a total joke. There's simply no excuse for it aside from inefficiency, or intentional sandbagging of their customers.


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Shadeykris

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07-07-2012

The only fix the turrets need is for them to have the same range - and he's said they're fixing that. The whole "its too easy to turtle forever and win even if they're scrubs" thing doesn't apply as long as people figure out not to break the inhibs until they're pushing.

Simply changing things may or may not be a quick fix. But changing them for the better, and making SURE they're for the better, is always gonna take time.


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Rumination

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07-07-2012

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Originally Posted by HKnux5112 View Post
Just read his posts from a few weeks ago, and said he's tried moving around the Nexus turret, changing the minion pathing lanes, etc.

He said none of them work. I'm pretty sure they'd work, why should we believe you? Sure, you make tons of money and have a great job, but, w/e.

Why not just do it anyways, or figure out WHY it isn't working, and do it. We all agree that TT is a fun map, but has it flaws. Hey, the jungling is getting better, but that's the ONLY update you'll see on TT for a loooong time, I promise you that.
Look, stop hating on Nome. That dude got dumped at the back of the bus with being in charge of TT. He was a genius while working on HoN, you can't blame him for being a bit salty.


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HKnux5112

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07-07-2012

You guys are just dumb :/


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Insect Repellant

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07-07-2012

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Look, stop hating on Nome. That dude got dumped at the back of the bus with being in charge of TT. He was a genius while working on HoN, you can't blame him for being a bit salty.
He asked for the position.
He already stated he tested switching the Nexus Turret and Nexus and it still has the same issue


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Redjik

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07-07-2012

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He asked for the position.
He already stated he tested switching the Nexus Turret and Nexus and it still has the same issue
But what was the issue?


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Insect Repellant

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07-07-2012

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But what was the issue?
Turtling and pulling minions into the fountain.


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