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I played AP Warwick..

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Norak

Senior Member

08-30-2010

I carried...

This was in a practice so it loses some validility there, but know:
It was 5 x 30's VS 5 x 30's.
So atleast you get the idea that they are more likely to be competent players, rather than a game full of <20's (excluding possible elo's).

I ended the game 10/1/5.

Some of you may know me from my various champion threads, as well as my guides. I will be including an AP Warwick guide in my Guides thread.

My build started off with Doran's shield.
I then moved onto Sheen (built straight into sheen because I ganked heimer in mid and had enough money for it)
Built Boots of speed and cloak of mr (the one that turns into Lichbane)
Finished Lichbane
Build sorcerers boots
Build mejais
They surrendered once I reached 6 stacks.

I would have finished it off with maybe Rylais, definitely Zhonyas, maybe Archangels, and abyssal would have really helped out too.

Try it out if you want. If you do make sure to post your success/failure here so I can improve the build.

Otherwise tell me what you think.
(i.e. 1.Build WW DPS
2. ???
3.PROFIT!)
[EDIT]Whoops!
Forgot to mention how it works.
Spam Q (and auto attack if you have lichbane) for massive damage + healing.
ONLY JUNGLE!
You cannot lane as AP WW.
His ult works well because of Lichbane. Meaning If you get 200 AP then its like you have 300 AD when you ult, which is really useful.
Put one point into W first for jungle, then max out Q and E, maxing out W last.
Gank at 6.
I used Smite + Ignite, but thats really your own choice (both are recommended)
Ult is best us to stop them getting away, rather than initaiting (if possible).

Quote:
Norak:
I had around 300-400 AP. So when I ulted it would have done something like this;
400 (AP) + 100 (AD) = 500 attack damage
500 (AD) x 0.33 (Ult %) = 165 damage per swipe
165 (DPSwipe) x 6 (swipes) = 990 Overall ult damage


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hightech:
The damage is added directly. You do not gain the AP as AD.

You are taking what I said too seriously.
I know it does not getting directly added to your AD, but the spells both proc the effect as well as use it (assuming they land).
It's the same for Infinite Duress.

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hightech:
No, it really really isn't.

Nice edit there to make me look like an idiot.
I was responding to:
Quote:
hightech:
That is not how it works for Parrley or Mystic Shot so I have a feeling you are wrong about Infinite Duress as well.

When I said "Yes it does.."
Stop being an idiot.

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Quiiincy:
i was said that on the topic of ur ult damage calculation

(He's talking about how Lichbane should only proc on the first hit of the ult)
You would think so, but his ult counts for 1 spell/attack, despite it being "split up".
So it does the lichbane damage over all the attacks.

[EDIT] Added what some people argued about to the OP so that the same arguments do not repeat themselves.
[EDIT2] You will see all of my posts have a -1, this is due to an immature poster who doesn't agree with me, and therefore just -1's all my posts in this topic. Please just ignore "hightech".
[EDIT3] I have found a problem with AP WW!
It turns out his ult is based off of lifesteal, so I can't say for sure if Lichbane affects the lifesteal portion of it...
Will require research and further testing.
[EDIT4]It does work with lifesteal!
Hoorah!


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Mhm916

Senior Member

08-30-2010

It's not impossible, but AD is better in general uses. Just like comparing AP sivir more or less.


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Norak

Senior Member

08-30-2010

Quote:
Mhm916:
It's not impossible, but AD is better in general uses. Just like comparing AP sivir more or less.

The ult does comparably more damage though...
His Q makes him a ***** in team fights (especially with max CDR)
and his W helps out his DPS allies.
E is GREAT for AP WW early and late game as he just needs to see them for a second.


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hightech

Recruiter

08-30-2010

Quote:
Norak:
His ult works well because of Lichbane. Meaning If you get 200 AP then its like you have 300 AD when you ult, which is really useful.

Do you know exactly how Lich Bane interacts with Infinite Duress?


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Norak

Senior Member

08-30-2010

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hightech:
Do you know exactly how Lich Bane interacts with Infinite Duress?

Yes.
It's the same mechanism as with Parley and Mystic Shot.

You use the spell. it procs Lichbane, then Lichbanes damage is added onto your AD, that AD is added onto your ult.

I had around 300-400 AP. So when I ulted it would have done something like this;
400 (AP) + 100 (AD) = 500 attack damage
500 (AD) x 0.33 (Ult %) = 165 damage per swipe
165 (DPSwipe) x 6 (swipes) = 990 Overall ult damage


P.S. Why am I getting -1's?

No one has said anything negative about me...

**** trolls..


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hightech

Recruiter

08-30-2010

Quote:
Norak:
Yes.
It's the same mechanism as with Parley and Mystic Shot.

You use the spell. it procs Lichbane, then Lichbanes damage is added onto your AD, that AD is added onto your ult.

I had around 300-400 AP. So when I ulted it would have done something like this;
400 (AP) + 100 (AD) = 500 attack damage
500 (AD) x 0.33 (Ult %) = 165 damage per swipe
165 (DPSwipe) x 6 (swipes) = 990 Overall ult damage

P.S. Why am I getting -1's?

No one has said anything negative about me...

**** trolls..

That is not how it works for Parrley or Mystic Shot so I have a feeling you are wrong about Infinite Duress as well.

The damage is added directly. You do not gain the AP as AD.


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Malzahearty Soup

Recruiter

08-30-2010

Your next goal: AP Garen!


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Norak

Senior Member

08-30-2010

Quote:
hightech:
That is not how it works for Parrley or Mystic Shot so I have a feeling you are wrong about Infinite Duress as well.

Yes it is?

Quote:
Malzahar:
Your next goal: AP Garen!

I lol'd wholeheartedly.

He doesn't have any ratios. :|

(Yes I did want to try it)


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Quiiincy

Member

08-30-2010

lich bane has a 3sec effect cd so it will only affect you 1st hit of ur ult i think


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Norak

Senior Member

08-30-2010

Why are people -1ing me still?
Not a single person has given a valid reason...