Can anyone explain to me why Ezreal is OP?

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JunkRamen

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08-27-2010

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Originally Posted by Crivissimo View Post
Not much of a difference, and Tristana's damage is also high, not to mention longer range and her jump is an AOE with CC thrown in.
Tristana's damage is not as high as Ezreal's past laning/ganking phase because her nukes are not nearly as versatile and spamable as Mystic Shot. Her steroid is pretty good, but only 15% stronger than Ezreal's and unlike his it has a limited duration.

[edit]: And if you seriously think there isn't a big difference between Ezreal's "true blink (yes I know it doesn't kill projectiles" and Tristana's jump, you need to play some more Tristana. Tristana is very easy to hit with a skillshot or nuke while she's RJing.


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Stenchrot

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08-27-2010

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His poking game is much better than Tristana's and is not as level reliant. Aside from early game gank power, his blink is overall a better survivability/chasing ability than Tristana's because of the short cooldown that gets even shorter by landing Q.

If you think Phreak is the only (or the first) high ranked player to think that Ezreal is OP, think again. He's been at the top of every tier list for a long time now and is by far the most commonly picked carry among high Elo players. You can argue that simply being common and top tier does not mean he's OP, but that's basically saying that every other ranged carry is UP, which is simply not true.
I think that he said the "Phreak thing" not because he doubts him, he said that because the same minute Phreak ( or any Riot staff member/ council/ adjudicator) say anything ( Morgana. anyone?) the half of the forums jump on the QQwagon and start making threads and posts about Ezreal being OP without any reasonable arguments ( or they have just rephrased something that either Phreak or a council member wrote ) thus , it prevents more QQ then ever calling a champ "OP" , yet he isn't , he is just stronger in the role that he is playing.

So if he has an ability to poke, do you need to remake him or just nerf him? If it's just a nerf, people will still QQ because of the lame distance he can harass from. If it's a rework, people will QQ because they miss the OPness.


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poornewb

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08-27-2010

he is a carry who dominates all phases of the game, no other carry are remotely close to doing that

every other ranged carry have weak early games but not ezreal


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dissonancy

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08-27-2010

It's a huge difference. Blink skills give no hints and leave people confused because we're not used to things just vanishing suddenly, there is always a trail of visual or sound clues that alert us to where it might have gone. Tristana's skill gives a slight slow, but only in a small radius around her. At this point, the enemy is already so close, it's very easy to pop a CC on her and ruin her getaway capabilities, not to mention the fact that you have tons of clues to help you know where she has gone.
Lots of champions have high damage.
Just not as high as Ezreal's.


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JunkRamen

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08-27-2010

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Originally Posted by Stenchrot View Post
I think that he said the "Phreak thing" not because he doubts him, he said that because the same minute Phreak ( or any Riot staff member/ council/ adjudicator) say anything ( Morgana. anyone?) the half of the forums jump on the QQwagon and start making threads and posts about Ezreal being OP without any reasonable arguments ( or they have just rephrased something that either Phreak or a council member wrote ) thus , it prevents more QQ then ever calling a champ "OP" , yet he isn't , he is just stronger in the role that he is playing.

So if he has an ability to poke, do you need to remake him or just nerf him? If it's just a nerf, people will still QQ because of the lame distance he can harass from. If it's a rework, people will QQ because they miss the OPness.
It's not like you had to be top 5% Elo to know how good Ezreal was. Ezreal was an extremely common first pick in my games, and I only play around 1400-1500 Elo.


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JunkRamen

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08-27-2010

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he is a carry who dominates all phases of the game, no other carry are remotely close to doing that

every other ranged carry have weak early games but not ezreal
I don't agree with the OP but you're just plain wrong too. Tristana is one of the most feared mids in the game. Ashe's early game isn't incredible, but it's not awful either. Corki has a decent early game.


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PuppetSoul

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08-27-2010

His Q has twice the range of an autoattack, meaning he can poke without any fear of reciprocation. (see: the reason they keep nerfing Vlad)

His E is a true blink, and can't be Shaq'd down midway by Vlad's W, Gragas's E, Anivia's E, etc. like Tristana's W and Corki's W (basically anything that creates an untargetable particple effect will block Tristana's rocket jump).


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WarlordLucifer

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08-27-2010

forgot the unlimited range high damage ult that sinergies with his passive extremely well instantly giving him the mas aspd bonus, oh and it pierces everything on it's path too


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Dzung

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08-27-2010

he's OP cause he killed me


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muNKdU6uPm7RecRT

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08-27-2010

It is because he can do everything very easily all game. His early game has a high amount of damage with abilities at long-range, his late game has a passive and abilities that help out a ton with dps, including a Q that scales with damage, a monster atk speed increase apssive, a low cd flash on a ranged hero, and lastly a speed buff to the team once the damage from his W isnt making much of a difference.

He is next to impossible to get to and kill in the hands of a smart player and just does too much damage naturally for the whole game. Most heroes do a lot of damage early game, mid game, or late game but not the entire game. Ezreal does a lot of damage for the whole game and still has a support ability and one of the best escape mechanisms in the game (second only to shaco's uber overpowered deceive).


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