AD Malzahar - STOP THE HATE

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HaIfhearted

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01-30-2013

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What's the counter to AD malz? Is it only ganks?
Nunu and AP Yi.
AD carries, especially the longer-ranged ones like Kog or Cait can also do really well.

Basically anything which can dps his voidlings down the moment he summons them and can sustain off his harass gives AD Malz a hard time, since hes pretty useless without his Voidlings.


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Damion Darksky

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01-31-2013

The only thing I don't like about AD Malzahar is the fact that all the rest of his abilities are like (+80% AP) and stuff like that. Does a Hybrid Build of AP/AD work well on him?


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MyDeadGrandma

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01-31-2013

Bft ever since it's introduction is considered mandatory on him, regardless of your overall build intent. That + witchcap if you're getting ganked/you're against a melee bot with QSS.

Itemization on dominoin has changed drastically since this thread was made.

A build today could look like
Manamune, boots of choice, odyns/rod, bft, last whisper or voidstaff depending on how the enemy is building defense, and witchcap.

You're essentially relying on your pool's % base + mpen for most of your magic damage, silence to harrass and zone, and E to push the lane.

As for ganking malz, he usually will end up dead. However, a decent ad malz with communication from his team will outright kill the ganker before going down with his ulti + voidlings. Unless it's Kass ganking, in which case proceed to DDchat/forums to complain as per protocol.


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Warrrrax

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01-31-2013

Um, why is BFT mandatory on him? It costs a TON nowdays near 4k. Whats wrong with the Manamune plus Defensive gear approach?
The whole point of AD mal is to let his minions deal most of the sustained damage. Once you get Murumana which is doable, you just added 200 dmg to every one of your DoTs, Ults, and autoattacks which is significant.

You are talking about a primarily AP-based Mal build with 1 token AD item and modest defense.


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The problem with hybrid is that you generally need to focus your penetration on 1 source or the other. And the hybrid items aren't really very good after many nerfs. you are right taht your spells fall off towards endgame, but by then you have huuge defense and really nasty voidlings. Your spells still have good utility... the %health AoE is solid, Silence is useful, Dot makes voids focus. and Ult of course holds while voids tear them a new one.

You kind of already ARE hybrid. AD/tank hybrid...or bruiser. I suppose you could toss in a Gunblade since it has decent AD and AP, but its too expensive and would make you too squishy.

Remember, you are playing a Damage over Time character, practically an autoattacker. He has to get in fairly close for his voids to beat up the enemy. hes got the nice poke early and midgame and good utility but he still has to be able to survive when ganked or just duking it out with a foe.


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konfetarius

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01-31-2013

Eh? Muramana only procs on his autos. If anything, Captain boots were the main buff to AD malz this patch.


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Soul of Infirc

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11-10-2013

So, which one are people playing now?, Ad or Ap malz?. yesterday i saw a worriesome number of BFTS in DD, is Bft a must buy again?.


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Pjoelj

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11-10-2013

Dat necro.


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Nerdock

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11-10-2013

I just dropped by to say hi.


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Evelynn Butt

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11-11-2013

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So, which one are people playing now?, Ad or Ap malz?. yesterday i saw a worriesome number of BFTS in DD, is Bft a must buy again?.
ap malz is stronger


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Koravel

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11-11-2013

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So, which one are people playing now?, Ad or Ap malz?. yesterday i saw a worriesome number of BFTS in DD, is Bft a must buy again?.
BFT is overpowered for a lot of APs because Riot had the genius idea to move the MS over to it. That's why you will see it in a lot of DD now.

As for which one people are playing: both.