What should Riot do about Free Champion Week

Keep the Free Week Champion count at 10 2,455 26.89%
Change the Free Week Champion count to 15 3,160 34.61%
Change the Free Week Champion count to 20 953 10.44%
Change the Free Week Champion count to something 20+ 398 4.36%
Make all 450s free permanently, in addition to the current Free Champion Week System 3,729 40.84%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 9131. You may not vote on this poll

Revising the Free Champion Week Concept

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alsowikk

Senior Member

12-05-2012

I'm out of catchphrases, so just imagine there's a penguin here. Just some random, penguin, oh and he's(yes it's a boy) and is very cute.


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Sundavagarm

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12-06-2012

Sometimes this website doesn't let me log in :/


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Sundavagarm

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12-06-2012

(Anyways) Bumparoo!!!!!


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Sundavagarm

Senior Member

12-06-2012

Need bumps?


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Sundavagarm

Senior Member

12-06-2012

Humpty Bumpty sat on a wall...


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Sundavagarm

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12-07-2012

Humpty Bumpty had a great fall...


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Sairentosutoka

Senior Member

12-07-2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorryza View Post
Hey Riot, before I even start, I'd like to say that the Free Champion Week concept is a great idea, part of the ingenuity that makes Riot and LoL in general great. But there are some issues with it.

I'd also like to state here that we are not asking for all free champions- we understand Riot needs their revenue to keep this great F2P game running. All we are asking for is a change to the free week. THAT IS ALL.

I've been playing this game for a really long time now- since before season 1 even started. Back then, there were only 40 champions, and with the 10 free champs a week concept, everyone was able to be played eventually, and since there was no 'meta', you could just pick up anyone, and play.

That worked back then, but it doesn't now.

We now have over 100 champions with the release of Zyra. That's a lot. This means that some champions are not going to be free frequently. I mean, think for a moment. When was the last time Akali or Karma was free (EDIT- AKALI FREE WHOOOO)? That also means that if you have champions that don't fit well into the metagame (like Fizz, or Leblanc), that severely limits limits the 'good' champions we can play, and that can be selected in an actual game. Also, you have to balance in the fact that you want new players to have access to easier champs to allow for a flatter learning curve. That's a lot of conditions to meet for the free champ week.

Therefore, the current issue isn't going to work. We have 100 champions- even if there were a different 10 champs every week, it would still take over 10 weeks (because I'm assuming Riot will release more champs). That's not even including the other requirements- either Yi or Ashe, or someone else like that has to be free constantly to allow the new players to build up basic skills, so they aren't trying to land an Anivia stun in their first game. Toss in the metagame requirements, and current system simply falls flat.

The 10 champ per week thing worked really well when we only had 40 champions, but now that we have 100, it just doesn't seem practical anymore due to the goals that it's trying to fulfill. There are simply too many goals, and the space in the free week isn't enough to fulfill all of them.

There is an easy solution however.

Make more champions free each week.

It would allow for more space so more champions could be free, allowing more people to play more individual champions faster, which is an important goal for free champ week. It also allows for room for more champions allowed for in the metagame, simultaneously allowing more fun games trying out new champions, yet more serious games with champions generally accepted to be 'strong'.

Also, there is another solution.

Make all the 450 ip champions free to play from the beginning for everyone, and don't put them in the free champion rotation anymore.

This will allow the new players easier champions to start out with, so you don't have to have Yi/Ashe in every free champion week rotation taking up dead space, so other champions might be rotated in. This also allows for basic roles for every person, so Riot doesn't have to worry about putting in supports/tanks/bruisers every time- because if worst comes to worst, the people can just fall back to those 450ip champs, while still allowing more space in the free week for people to try more people.

-EDIT- This part is for you, Hippalus:

-NOTE- This could actually make Riot more money.

Think of Free Champions as free samples that you get from your local grocery store. Some people try them because they're free, and then like them, so then they buy them. Champions can follow the same philosophy- it's what got me to buy Anivia, and through that, a skin. It's just like increasing the amount of free samples to give out, except that you don't even have to pay for the cost of the samples.

Not to mention that these changes will foster goodwill with players, and happier players are more likely to be paying players.

Here is the thread where Riot states their goals for free champ week:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...ad.php?t=46045

-EDIT- And a chart showing the Free weeks: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AofrmJkywDXMdGFiR1NjeEl0c0NDME5TcW9oSnNpN mc#gid=0 (Updated Free Week # 33). Special thanks to TomajRT btw for making this chart.

And also, MistrissHel's champion rotation statistics thread contains some surprising information regarding the amount of times champions are free. It's here: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=1865087

Note that there are many "easy" champs (Caitlyn, Ashe, Yi, MF etc.) That appear multiple times. I mean jeez, Ashe: 10 times. Annie: 9 times. Caitlyn: 9 times. Graves: 10 times. Cho'Gath: 10 times. MF: freaking 11 times. And keep in mind this chart has only been recording since Season two.

Meanwhile, there have been many champs glossed over. Orianna- only one appearance. Karma: only one appearance. Rumble: only one appearance (and that was this week too). Akali: no appearances at all -EDIT- this has changed since the time this thread has been created. The list of "unpopular" champions continues- Lee Sin, Lux, Shaco, Udyr: there are just too many people who are almost never free.

There seems to be an issue with playing certain champions- in the entirety of Season 2, there have been too many that have almost never been free. This needs to be changed. And these solutions will help change it.

Reasoning to the poll options.
-note- you can pick multiple options to allow for what you think is an acceptable solution- there may be more than one that you think could work.

Keep it at 10: pretty self-explanitory. The Free Champions week is fine the way it is already, nothing needs to be changed.

Raise the number of free champions to 15/20/20+: The thing you have to keep in mind, however, is that Riot makes a significant amount of money from people buying Champions. I mean, more free champions are always nice, but Riot needs money too, both because they're funding this great F2P game, and they are a company that makes money. There needs to be a balance between the amount of money they're making, and the champions that are free- it's great if 40 champions are free- until Riot goes belly-up and has to shut down LoL. Just to make sure people don't mindlessly vote for 20+. I personally believe that 15 or 20 is the best option, but if even after people read this, and think about it seriously, and they think there needs to be more than 20 champs free per week, they should be able to say it.

-EDIT- As pointed out by ROOTDerp, we don't nessecarily need to raise it to 15 champions per week. Even a minute change like 12 champions a week would help begin to alleviate the problems- with maybe two slots added for the sole purpose of showcasing Champions that haven't been in the rotation for over 2 months.

Make all 450s free: There are currently 3 goals for Free Champ week. One of them is to allow for new players to play the game with easier champions, so they could learn the game easier, before moving on to more complicated champions. The 450s are generally acknowledged to be easier than average, plus they have a general spread of decent champions that are different positions (Ashe for Ranged DPS, Soraka for support, etc). They are also very cheap, meaning that Riot has one less condition to fulfill, while still keeping most of their revenue. This might fix many of the issues we currently have with Free Champ week, as well as stop the ragers when people go "Ashe/Yi free again? Trollololol."
Please note that this option would include Riot removing all the 450s from the free champ week possibilities, so Free Champ week could focus more on the more individual, harder, more unique champions, while still allowing newer players more consistancy in champs to start out with, and keeping Riot's money.

If you have a possible solution that isn't included on this poll, then please post it, along with a good explanation. If I believe it's a good idea, I will edit this post to include it.

Some good quotes:



Also, a good argument for 450ip champs being free:


More support for free 450s:





And some good statistics and player experience to sum it up:



FAQ:

Q: why can't we vote on individual champions?
A: Firstly, when things are based on "Each account gets something", keep in mind how easy it is to smurf in League. People could easily create smurfs to vote or to "pick" champs to try. There is a reason why Election Fraud is a crime, you know.

Q: But what about you don't own being free?
A: Again, smurfing. Just make more smurfs until you can try the person you want to.

Q: Will there be refunds if the 450 option happens?
A: I don't really know.
If Riot keeps records of whether you bought something with RP or IP, then have hope. But if Riot doesn't, be prepared to see GD flooded with "ZOMG BOUGHT 450s WITH RP, RIOT WON'T REFUND, SCUMBAG RIOT", despite the fact that the vast majority actually didn't but are looking for free RP.

However, contacting Support still might get you something.

In other words- don't count on it.

Q: L0L STFU N00B stop asking for everything to be free.
A: um... well the only thing we're asking for here is a change to the free week. the 450s free is only one of the solutions. And honestly, for me, I own almost every 450. All I want is for the 450s to stop going on the free week.

TL;DR the Free Champion Week system should have more champions per week, or all the 450ip champs should be free and removed automatically from the rotation.

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Please to everyone who is reading this, read all the options and their explanations, do the poll, and bump and thumbs this up in hopes that a Red will eventually read and approve this. And if you're in contact with a Red in any way, please point them to this in hopes that a change might come just a little bit faster.

And Riot, if you're there reading this, all I ask is for a quick sentence on what's going to happen. Assuming the poll is generally representative of the LoL population, the vast majority of people (around three quarters) are asking for some kind of change. It would be great if you could respond to that sentiment somehow.

Thank you for your time,
Dorryza

-EDIT- 100 upvotes, thx guys =)

-EDIT- 10 hour difference, over twice the votes (from 1800 to 3600). I guess a reddit link kinda does that.

-EDIT- 500 upvotes you guys rock!
-Ålso, changed things that were old information (champ statistics, mostly) to be more up-to-date.

-EDIT- added an FAQ.

-EDIT- on the second page of most posts in GD, still no red. Cmon Riot D=

-EDIT- now on the first page of most posts in GD ever.

-EDIT- 1000 upvotes and 400 pages thanks guys =)

-EDIT- well we've come a long way in 5 months. I'd like to support GD for receiving this so well, and some of the more dedicated bumpers, especially Tomaj, SillySweet, Sundavagarm, Alsowikk, and so many others. This wouldn't be possible without you guys.


I never thought I'd say this, but-

Riot plz?

-EDIT#3- needs more red bait!

Pendragon: I know someone banned without reason... not really

RicklessAbandon: Have a prime copy of Alice in Wonderland!

Phreak: I think Trinity would work on Vayne and Riven, because they use their abilities so much, it could allow them to do TONS OF DAMAGE!

Phreak alt. I think Zyra would be played best as a jungler.

Morello: I believe Irelia's minion farming abilities with her ultimate and her q are still a little bit too powerful. Maybe nerf Irelia a bit?

Morello alt.: so, Irelia is kind of outclassed by Jax in almost every way. you should buff Irelia?

Ironstylus: I actually was toying with the idea of a female tank. Then Leona came along XD- Also, Parrots are awesomesauce. Because they are. And if you enact this, then Leona will be free more. You know you want that =P

Zileas: ARMORED BEARS MOAR MOAR MOAR (plus if this goes into action, there will be more free weeks with armored bears in them, leading to awesomer free weeks. Cause they're awesome. Right?

...no? *sadface*).

Iorek Byrins- *Ahem* Volibear: ^=see that=^

Nyandalee: Nidalee is so powerful in ARAM/B don't you think? Me like >-)

Runaan: I have no Lux/Ezreal artwork =( But I've got plenty of Lux/Riven artwork, want that?

Saiyaka: Here, have this-
Soraka Heals
She gives armor to all friends.
All A-D's are sad
=P

Moneypenny (or is it Hippalus now?): Hello? All you need is 4 simple steps.

1) Read thread, specifically the sample analogy.
2) Enact said changes.
3) ????
4) Profit

Xypherous: Stealth rework.

Nikasau: Take this token of my undying lo- ah **** where'd it go?

Kitae: Kat's lore. change it back >_> Same goes for you Raven.

Illusia, just take a look at the pictures. I do believe there'll be one you'll like (COOKIES!) =P

FeralPony, Jozrael, and other red bronies, do that too =).

I like i gave up on certain champs being in free-week since they never appeared and just got them myself like karma for example but i got her since i knew i would like her she lookd fun and i do but the only champion i havnt played is trundle (well nami now as well since she just came out and im not a support person i didnt bother ill play her next week when she is like 90% most likley to be free .

iv never seen trundle since iv started playing (i started playing in early season 2 i think like champ rotation 15- and iv never seen trundle and i want to try him since its very rare to see him in pvp i want to try him.


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alsowikk

Senior Member

12-08-2012

@ sair, my sympathies a similar thing occured to me with him, akali, fizz...it happens alot actually.

@sundavagarm, I'm not sure if you'll keep bumping but my 6 month dead line is over. best of luck in all of your endeavors.
-One final bump, R.I.P.?


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Dorryza

Senior Member

12-09-2012

sorry, I've been so busy the past couple days (or weeks, or months....)

but I'M BACK TO BUMP =D


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Sundavagarm

Senior Member

12-09-2012

To bump or not to bump?