Why is Ryze not considered Top Tier?

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Tzyroth

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08-22-2010

i like how his one (apparently fake) example of a success with ryze means hes the best champion ever


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Xtchizobr

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08-22-2010

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Originally Posted by Lichman View Post
He is a Melee caster~
you must be thinking of Fiddles.


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Daniellynet

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08-22-2010

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Originally Posted by facepalmextreme View Post
because all of ryze's ap ratios are far below 1.0

remember kids, the omfgnuker order in LoL goes

anivia with mejais, annie, veigar, ryze, everyone else
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Veigar vs Annie = Veigar wins.

I don't know about Anivia though. Never played against her with Veigar.

Last match was with 3 tanks.


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Tzyroth

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08-22-2010

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Originally Posted by Daniellynet View Post
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Veigar vs Annie = Veigar wins.

I don't know about Anivia though. Never played against her with Veigar.

Last match was with 3 tanks.
Im not going to explain to you how statistics work....


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RE Bantos

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08-22-2010

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Um... Where does Karthus fall into? Surely he can't be "everyone else"...
Karthus is not a nuker. That's why he wasn't on that list.


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Lance Eliot

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08-22-2010

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Um... Where does Karthus fall into? Surely he can't be "everyone else"...
Agreed, though Karthus is less about huge burst nuking than about huge sustainable magic dps. A really skilled Karthus will do ridiculous damage.


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Brassherald

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08-22-2010

Ryze is great for team fights, and a decent assassin to take out the melee squishies who venture out by themselves with no tank, but honestly, he does not have the same power as a well played Annie or Anivia, both of which are more effective in team fights and can still take out the squishies if they know how to use their stuns.

Also, if you are playing the lower ELOs where a facerolling Ryze is the best nuker in the matches, you're obviously not seeing an Annie that uses her passive very effectively, or an Anivia that knows how to get the most of her Flash Frost. And there are some other burst damage dealers that can be mentioned that can easily become better than Ryze, I'd even go so far as to say AP Sion is a better nuker than Ryze.

Also, when you sign your posts, you could at least put up the right name... FOOL!


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SonicTheHedgedawg

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08-22-2010

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Originally Posted by Omnicis View Post
yes. but when you build these survivability items, you arent OMFG NUKE like OP says, and arent "overpowered"

tanks also have that problem of going down with the ship.
not really true.

RoA gives ryze HP, but it also gives him mana for his Q and AP for everything
Glacial Shroud gives him armour, also mana for his Q and CDR for everything.
Abyssal sceptre gives him Magic Resist, but Also lots of AP and -MR for everything.


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BACKSTABUUU

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08-22-2010

Because Ryze is easily countered with Banshee's Veil


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Feynt

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08-22-2010

Stuns and silence just destroy Ryze. He has a life time of perhaps 2-3 seconds once he gets close enough to toss his combo in a team fight, but he can be stunned or silenced before he can manage to get that close, meaning only part of his combo (if any) will go off. So 2-3 seconds later, he dies. But if he can catch the enemy unawares, he can be quite devastating.