Why can't Riot just make Hecarim's Q do full damage to minions/monsters

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2pudge1cup

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05-26-2012

because his ganks are considerably more scary than mundo/shyv/amumu


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Zuphlas

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05-26-2012

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Originally Posted by LegendaryHobos View Post
Because buffs can have unexpected results.
It'll be better to slowly increase it if his jungle needs improvement, but giving it a huge buff can easily throw him over the edge.
And if you're going to compare jungle clear times, you have to compare all the other things junglers do too.
Yup. Others may clear somewhat quicker than he does, but his ganks are nearly guaranteed to either burn the enemy's SS, force them back to base, or pick up a kill. Shyv and mundo may hit full dmg with their AoE, but shyvana has no hard CC and mundo only has cleaver - miss that once and the gank is probably not going to go anywhere. With hecarim it's not hard to turn even one of his worst ganks into some type of success for his team.


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Killrazor

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05-26-2012

he would push the lane like crazy. it is fine how it is right now. the buff recently helped a lot.


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Niceguydan8

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05-26-2012

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I'm not sure they intended Hec to be a jungler. I think the reduced damage is to stop the lane from being pushed to hard if you're harassing the enemy with it.
Wat.

Look at his kit. Why would they intend him to be primarily a top laner with a kit like that?


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Talon Silverwing

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05-26-2012

mundo has great clear times and good damage but no reliable CC, shy has no CC but great clear times and damage, amumu doesn't have that much damage but has great ganks, and you want hecarim to have great clear times, great ganks, AND great damage?

If Riot listened to you hecarim would immediately become the best jungler in the entire game with no trade offs.


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Niceguydan8

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05-26-2012

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Originally Posted by Talon Silverwing View Post
mundo has great clear times and good damage but no reliable CC, shy has no CC but great clear times and damage, amumu doesn't have that much damage but has great ganks, and you want hecarim to have great clear times, great ganks, AND great damage?

If Riot listened to you hecarim would immediately become the best jungler in the entire game with no trade offs.
But the thing is, with 100% damage to creeps, his damage still wouldn't be that great. His ganks are good, not great. Post six he has better ganks though.

I don't think it needs to be 100% though.


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Eyeburn

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05-26-2012

Why the **** does everybody keep saying that top lane Hecarim would be nerfed if Q did full damage? Positioning IS a part of this game and asking someone to position themselves better to attain desired results in lane is how the game is played.


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Alternated

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05-26-2012

give garen E full damage to minion!!!!


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EndlessCycle

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05-26-2012

Bump.


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Koldheartedjsp

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05-26-2012

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Originally Posted by EzSkillshot View Post
Because he has much superior ganks than shyv/udyr/mundo.
lol'd