How to counter Zilean in lane?

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Heliostorm

Senior Member

08-14-2010

I jump him, he puts bombs on my head and runs away while his lane partner wails on me and my partner. I harass him, he outharasses me with bombs. I play defensive and try to farm quietly, he bombs me, my minions, and the World Trade Center. How does one beat a Zilean in lane?


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inficross

Junior Member

08-14-2010

just beat it .....yeah
or get your teamate to gank.one on one,few heroes can counter him


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Lindarling

Junior Member

08-14-2010

which is why i <3 zilean

stuns, silences, and even slows along with nuke damage that take out at least half of his hp make life difficult for him, since he is squishy. But yeah early game never go solo against him unless his mana is near depleted.


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Pandairl

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08-14-2010

Right, but if he had teammates that could just gank him, he wouldn't have an issue with him.

Basically, it's all about pushing fast and denying his early game. Because midgame with a little farming(mana regen and cooldown reduc gear) his harassing increases considerably, this is usually the time people have issues with.

Bombs!
If he's running in to drop a bomb on a player, make sure that player runs away from the minion packs. Reduce his mana effectiveness by forcing him to choose between hitting -1- player, or minions. And don't drag bombs onto other players, it's not nice.
Sidenote, I've seen Zileans with smite, they love to drop a bomb on a minion near you then smite it immediately to harass. Keep an eye out for this tactic.
Mana!
An early Wit's End or diff mana drain can shut him down. Zilean has LOTS of mana issues, watch his mana like a hawk, because his auto hits like a sock, and if he has no mana, he's literally an old guy strapped to a clock, kill him with impunity.

Spell resistance!
Right, yeah, I hate gearing against specific heroes, but a Negatron cloak will cut a LOT of damage off his bombs. But if you're gearing SR, you need to have a teammate that can compensate for the DPS loss, otherwise you probably won't put him down.


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Vasimr

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08-14-2010

get a ezreal or ashe and he's done.


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JohnHope

Junior Member

12-14-2010

This is how you counter any zilean, if you try to go one of one with him its fairly easy. All he has is double bomb to do all his damage early game. But after that he auto attacks and waits until his abilities are ready or he runs away, thats when you get him. I've destroyed tons of zileans playing a character who can just survive his first wave of bombs such as garen or even soraka. Happy Hunting!


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Kesshisan

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12-14-2010

People get so scared when you throw a double bomb on a creep next to them, watch both bombs explode, and 1/3 of their hps disappear instantly.

Of course you can only do this once every 15 seconds or so, and people think "I just lost a lot of hps, it's time to run away" instead of "Hey, he just blew all his abilities, TIME TO CHARGE!" The proper counter to Zilean is to charge at him from an obscure angle (bushes) so that you can hit him with a slow. He will bomb you, but so long as you can survive a double bomb + some terror from his laning partner, you should be fine. However, learning how to deal with this setup can be an exercise in frustration.

Zilean gets really really strong around levels 8-13ish. Also he is really powerful for a brief moment at level 3, because chances are he'll hit level 3 before you due to his passive. These are times when his Q gets out of control, even with he has only a tiny amount of AP.


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Bumbah

Senior Member

12-15-2010

Too bad cleanse doesn't remove his bombs anymore lol


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atsmith893

Senior Member

12-15-2010

This is one of the HUGE misconceptions people have about zileans bombs...

The first thing everyone does when they have a bomb on their head is run away from their creep waves and hide by the turret. This is wrong, instead run on top of your creeps so the bomb kills or at least removes much of their health.

Why?

Because now you are 'pulling' instead of 'pushing'... You are forcing zilean to sit just outside his creep wave for exp near your turret, overextending himself. This is the perfect time to setup a gank with your lane partner and/or jungle.


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Vienna

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12-15-2010

if you're going to get harassed, bite down and trade it. the worst thing to do is get bombed, then just straight up back off every time so he gets those free hits. make him work to land bombs, and make him trade if he does land them.

if you need your lane back, you can get bombed, then sit on your creeps so he pushes, then you can call for ganks or set up a kill.


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