Damage addition of PENETRATION

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GaGaGa2

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04-09-2012

As we know Last Whisper provides you 40% armor penetration. But how much damage increased by Last Whisper exactly?
Does the “Last Whisper” increase the higher percentage damage dealing to targets when the targets’ armor is great?
The Answer is NO
Income Damage = 100/(100+X) X is the Armor or magic resist
It means when you already have a big amount of armor (or magic resist), you gain less damage reduction by building the same amount of armor (or magic resist).
For example, 100 Armor = 50% income damage, 200 Armor = 33% income damage. You gain 50% damage reduction by build 100 armor when you did not have any armor. But you gain 17% damage reduction by build 100 armor when you already have 100 armor.
The addition of damage done by Last Whisper = 100/(100+60% X) – 100/(100 + X)
Armor = 0, +0% damage
Armor = 10, +3.6% damage
Armor = 20, +6.0% damage
Armor = 30, +7.8% damage
Armor = 40, + 9.3% damage
Armor = 50, +10.3% damage
Armor = 75, +11.7% damage
Armor = 100, +12.5 % damage
Armor = 131, +12.7 % damage (it reach the maximum)
Armor = 150, +12.6 % damage (start decreasing)
Armor = 200, + 12.1% damage
Armor = 250, +11.4% damage
Armor = 300, +10.6% damage




For “The Brutalizer” which has 15 armor penetration
The penetration CAN NOT be count after the income damage = 100%, but armor reduction CAN.
The addition of damage done by The Brutalizer = 100/(85+X) – 100/(100 + X)
Armor = 15, +13% damage
Armor = 20, +11.9% damage (decreasing rapidly)
Armor = 30, +10.0% damage
Armor = 40, +8.5% damage
Armor = 50, +7.4% damage
Armor = 75, +5.3% damage
Armor = 100, + 4.0%damage
Armor = 150, +2.0%damage
Armor = 200, +1.7% damage

Same thing for “Void Staff”.


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GaGaGa2

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04-09-2012

P.S.: ALL ORIGINAL, BY SUMMONER GaGaGa2


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axesandspears

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04-10-2012

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This also means that Last Whisper's armor penetration is a larger damage boost as soon as the opponent passes 112.5 effective armor armor (after counting your armor penetration and all other modifiers including that 10% additional penetration from the mastery).

However, the Black Cleaver's armor reduction is still more useful while these numbers are close because it enhances the damage done from all sources of physical damage against the target, not just you. Black Cleaver also has better stats and will be more useful against other squishies.


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GaGaGa2

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04-10-2012

U cant count Black Cleaver simply as 45 armor reduction.
U gain the bonus damage of 45 armor reduction only when u had attack the target 3 times.
The 1st attack gain no bonus damage, The 2nd attack gain damage of 15 armor......
if u change target, u need to reduce the armor again


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04-10-2012

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Originally Posted by GaGaGa2 View Post
U cant count Black Cleaver simply as 45 armor reduction.
U gain the bonus damage of 45 armor reduction only when u had attack the target 3 times.
The 1st attack gain no bonus damage, The 2nd attack gain damage of 15 armor......
if u change target, u need to reduce the armor again
Doesnt it last 5 seconds regardless of how many targets you have?


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axesandspears

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04-11-2012

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Originally Posted by VitalSkills View Post
Doesnt it last 5 seconds regardless of how many targets you have?
Each attack would reapply the debuff and reset the timer, but yes.


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I got 13ITCHES

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04-11-2012

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Originally Posted by VitalSkills View Post
Doesnt it last 5 seconds regardless of how many targets you have?
i believe change of target removes the YOUR debuff and resets it on the next target. so u can't go 3 quick hits this guy change, target, 3 quick hits that guy, change target, 3 quick hits this other guy, WUKONG ULTI!!!! not gonna work like that.


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StrmCkr

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04-11-2012

yeah it works like that

stacks reduce the armour and provide a debuff on a target. which all allies can use.

and
bc's stacks last 5 seconds from when the last stack is added
same applies with malday