Using Phreaks Twisted Fate logic

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AwedByMyProwess

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03-25-2012

"Yeah he doesn't deal as much damage as the others. This is what happens when you have a non-combat ultimate. I definitely maintain that he should not still have quite as much damage as these other champions, because if you reach Akali-level damage output and have a long-range teleport, you're almost definitely OP.

As I said he might be weak. These numbers do seem to lend to that conclusion."

Using that logic, there are many issues that need to be fixed.

1)If you have Master Yi's damage output and 5 seconds of invulnerability, wouldn't you be OP? Yet that's what we have in Tryndamere.

2)If you have another champs ultimate for your passive, wouldn't you be OP? Yet that's what we have in Volibear.

3)If you could deal damage for 3-4 seconds while you were untargetable, wouldn't you be OP? Yet that's what we have in Fiora.

The list goes on. Yes Twisted Fate was OP when he had global ult, but there are far more broken OP issues that need to be addressed. The only difference between TF's global ult and the current balance issues is that TF acutally tooks skill to use...These champs all you have to do is right click.


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DrunkMedStudent

Senior Member

03-25-2012

except twisted fate does comparable damage to other ap carries in team fights. what actually balances him is twitch-like health and defenses.


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Trophycase

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03-25-2012

totally silly logic.

none of the things you even listed are op.


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Anyael

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03-25-2012

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Originally Posted by Trophycase View Post
totally silly logic.

none of the things you even listed are op.
Tryndamere balanced.


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Trophycase

Senior Member

03-25-2012

tryndamere is crutched by the lack of hard cc and his melee range, if you die to trynd in teamfights as the carry you need to position better.

Fiora's ult is the only thing that even keeps her near viable.

Volibear is mediocre at best, his passive works much more slowly than mundo's ult, doesn't give ms, and doesn't heal as much, not to mention it probably regens less health in the long run than mundo's passive anyway.


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Trophycase

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03-25-2012

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Originally Posted by Anyael View Post
Tryndamere balanced.
he is, if he were op you would actually see him in competitive play


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Quintessence

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03-25-2012

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Originally Posted by DrunkMedStudent View Post
except twisted fate does comparable damage to other ap carries in team fights. what actually balances him is twitch-like health and defenses.
huh... how? are you playing AP twitch or something?


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Vuther

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03-25-2012

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totally silly logic.

none of the things you even listed are op.
Or correct.

The third one also came out of no where and didn't follow the pattern of the other two.


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aahdin

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03-25-2012

different things are different


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Blastphemy

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03-25-2012

Pulling a stun every 4-5 seconds, and massive AoE damage on a 6 second cooldown. Can sustain his mana with just a dorans ring. TF is very good, if he wasn't Jiji wouldn't play him all the time and CLG wouldn't try and focus team comps around him.


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