where the heck are the bad guys?

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IS15ae86e1c3de7a2369ab3

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03-20-2012

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Someone needs a hug.
Someone has a death wish.


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Ask Jarvan IV

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03-20-2012

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Naaaah.

He's probably talking about Jarvan, everyone knows that guy is evil.
Come get some, Noxian. COME GET SOME.


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Ask Talon

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03-20-2012

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Come get some, Noxian. COME GET SOME.
See? Evil.

Cares for nothing but war and death.


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Ask Riven

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03-20-2012

I think I've seen this topic before... But please define 'bad'.

Some people think Noxus is 'bad'. Personally, I think the way Demacia handles it's own elitism is 'bad'. It forces its ideals onto others because they've managed to brainwash themselves into thinking their way is the only one. And so everyone must follow this master plan or be eliminated. Sound like your typical 'evil villain' yet?

At least in Noxus we stay true to ourselves. If you don't put effort into your own being, you will not be worthy of rising in the ranks. The louts and chumps will stay at the bottom of the ladder where they belong. The ones who wish to prove themselves more than the others will succeed. The ones who cheat the system, however, will not be forgiven in my eyes.


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Ask Talon

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03-20-2012

Well said Riven, well said.


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belthazor3457

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03-20-2012

Human mentalities can sometimes be complex things. IT's possible to be incredibly cruel to one group while very nice to another group. The idea of black and white, good and bad, are manufactured by today's overly-complacent society that doesn't want people to understand the reality that exists around them, and the reality is the world isn't as simple as it looks, and one guy isn't a "bad guy" for having a different moral compass than you. It is "realistic" to have bad guys portrayed as doing "good stuff" at least to a select group of people. The idea that everyone who is "bad" is a total nutter with no redeeming traits what-so-ever is a mindset held normally by the uneducated who never have had to involve themselves in the world's more serious flaws.


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Nulllight

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03-21-2012

Bah. I fully believe the world is more black and white then we give it credit for, but that's a philosophy debate for another time.

In the LoL lore, many of these characers are simply what they are. Evil Killers. I guess as long as no one starts playing Shaco as some misunderstood good guy or Cho'Gath as a cute little kitten I'll be ok...for now.


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Ask Talon

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03-21-2012

I don't think you are looking into "Evil" enough. Here, let me help.

Lawful Evil

Lawful Evil is referred to as the "Dominator" or "Diabolic" alignment. Characters of this alignment see a well-ordered system as being easier to exploit, and show a combination of desirable and undesirable traits; while they usually obey their superiors and keep their word, they care nothing for the rights and freedoms of other individuals and are not averse to twisting the rules to work in their favor. Examples of this alignment include tyrants, devils, undiscriminating mercenary types who have a strict code of conduct, and loyal soldiers who enjoy the act of killing.

Like Lawful Good Paladins, Lawful Evil characters may sometimes find themselves faced with the dilemma of whether to obey law or evil when the two conflict. However, their issues with Law versus Evil are more concerned with "Will I get caught?" versus "How does this benefit me?"

Neutral Evil

Neutral Evil is called the "Malefactor" alignment. Characters of this alignment are typically selfish and have no qualms about turning on their allies-of-the-moment. They have no compunctions about harming others to get what they want, but neither will they go out of their way to cause carnage or mayhem when they see no direct benefit to it. They abide by laws for only as long as it is convenient for them. A villain of this alignment can be more dangerous than either Lawful or Chaotic Evil characters, since he is neither bound by any sort of honor or tradition nor disorganized and pointlessly violent.

Examples are an assassin who has little regard for formal laws but does not needlessly kill, a henchman who plots behind his superior's back, or a mercenary who switches sides if made a better offer.

Talon falls under "Neutral Evil"

Chaotic Evil

Chaotic Evil is referred to as the "Destroyer" or "Demonic" alignment. Characters of this alignment tend to have no respect for rules, other people's lives, or anything but their own desires, which are typically selfish and cruel. They set a high value on personal freedom, but do not have any regard for the lives or freedom of other people. They do not work well in groups, as they resent being given orders, and usually behave themselves only out of fear of punishment.

It is not compulsory for a Chaotic Evil character to be constantly performing sadistic acts just for the sake of being evil, or constantly disobeying orders just for the sake of causing chaos. They do however enjoy the suffering of others, and view honor and self-discipline as weaknesses. Serial killers and monsters of limited intelligence are typically Chaotic Evil.

These are only three degrees of Evil, I believe there are up to eight or twelve of them in total.


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Bigpuddintatters

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03-21-2012

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Naaaah.

He's probably talking about Jarvan, everyone knows that guy is evil.
I thought he was refering to Teemo.


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Irelia Bot

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03-21-2012

Talon, we all know that you have a weakness for Riven's cookies. Why would you steal cookies when you could steal something like Zhonya's hourglass. Or was it you that stole Zhonya's Ring?


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