Counter to cait: Rammus
Rumble, you don't have to attack rammus if you don't wnat, and really who doesn't turn on flamespitter right before rammus taunts you anways
counter to pantheon: Viktor
The Panda Mayne
Shaco beats him if he is ganking, in the lane ryze imo, punishes viktor for having no sustain or escape.
ryze vs viktor would be interesting, but i think early game viktor would come out on top due to his range. counter pick to ryze: katarina (believe it or not)
lee would eat kat alive, but he's been done so lets say urgot
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