Master Yi suggestion

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Denambren

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02-17-2012

Beyond AP Yi, meditate's heal being shut down in some way by ignite or executioner's calling is not really an issue on why meditate is a limited use ability. AD Yi does not meditate because he expects to gain back all sorts of HP, but the rather he uses it to gain armor and MR to endure damage while at a temporary disadvantage against his enemy (such as a blind debuff).

A good example of this is when you face Kayle as Yi in a showdown with your ult active and E active, and then Kayle casts her ult and goes invulnerable. This is when you meditate with Yi because there's nothing else you can do vs Kayle, and running away will just get you hit by the flame sword. You meditate until Kayle's ult is over, and then you abort the meditation the instant Kayle's ult is down and continue attacking. If this is a late game fight, your meditate is giving you 300 armor and 300 MR plus your existing resists (generally over 400 in total), so Kayle will not be doing a whole lot of damage even with max penetration items. Kayle has no CC to interrupt Yi and so this strat works against her and is one of the rare scenarios where meditate has a purpose.

Against the better champs who dominate Dominion such as Wu Kong, Talon, Riven, Pantheon, Poppy, Rammus, etc, meditate has little value due to those champs' ability to interrupt meditate as part of their regular ability rotation. The only value meditate really has vs high CC teams is being able to heal in a bush when you need some extra healing. The overall healing is nothing special for AD Yi, and it is not practical to buy AP just for this ability unless you're playing with pure AP Yi.

It's worth noting that meditate is actually not bad versus Ryze when he activates his ult and goes apeshat on you. Both his Q and E have projectile animation you can react to and meditate while they are flying towards you to absorb the punch. If you can bait him into using his ult, you can also meditate through the entire rotation once he turns it on, and then interrupt meditate once the cage ends and start cutting him down. Unfortunately, it is way too easy for Ryze to build frozen heart and thornmail as part of his regular build, so Yi still has a hard time versus Ryze's natural itemization.


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Aparkhurst

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02-17-2012

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Originally Posted by Denambren View Post
something like CC interrupting the meditate, but then the one CC ability is absorbed like Sivir's shield or Nocturne.
That idea is kind of amazing, it would encourage a lot more gameplay for him (baiting stuns or reacting to projectile cc)


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