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Shaco Getting right at the core of the problem.

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Sakagami0

Senior Member

07-21-2010

If you can't counter Shaco and QQ, play Shaco against someone that can counter him. You will feel so underpowered.
Stop complaining unless you know the details inside and out.


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Powergrip

Recruiter

07-21-2010

dude really? is this a game breaker? NO its not. The problem here is that shaco has an ability that is awesome for escape, BUT if shaco is escaping you either is winning a team fight or you are chasing after someone mid/early game.

Lets take a look at the first possibility: if you are winning a team fight shaco is running, YOU SHOULD NOT GO AFTER HIM!! Finish the fight push get a tower or maybe two and fall back. Thats your main objetive get the towers and not the kills.

Possibility two: you found a shaco in the jungle, you attack him, its early/mid game, if you are going to gank him you need to be prepared for a chase!!! Oracle vision or stun initiator is the best for this situation but you cant be pissed becouse you are trying to chase a champ that is better equiped to run away then you are to chase him.

ps: no shaco have ever managed to escape me if im using a chaser becouse as a chaser you NEED to be prepared for some blinks and decieves... come on


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Beoftw

Senior Member

07-21-2010

Quote:
Sakagami0:
If you can't counter Shaco and QQ, play Shaco against someone that can counter him. You will feel so underpowered.
Stop complaining unless you know the details inside and out.



oh thats right, because the real problem is that WE have to base our champ selections around the all mighty guy who picks shaco first. oh thats the greatest fix ive ever heard.


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Sakagami0

Senior Member

07-21-2010

Im gonna go straight forward and guess that you've never played Shaco.
Do you not do that same against Yi? or maybe even Heimer or Tryn for that matter.
You don't need to set up a whole team comp to beat a Shaco.
If you do, then
your doing it wrong boy.


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Ssraeshza

Member

07-21-2010

Just remove the "Instant" part of his invisibility and give him a 1.5 second fade time like everyone else.

It makes 0 sense for him to have the shortest CD invis while having a flash component attached WITH an instant fade.


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Lunfardo

Senior Member

07-21-2010

this game is adjust for noobs.


just have 4 sec stealh, and jitb are easy for avoid.


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Surgie

Senior Member

07-21-2010

no need for anymore nerfs. with the banning system they basically fixed the problem...

dont like a champion? ban them. simple.

have more then 2 u dont like? hope they ban them

more then 4? pick one of the OP champs.

more then possible to ban and pick? stfu cuz its not that unbalanced


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zzbzq

Senior Member

07-21-2010

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Uccisore:
You know what Shaco, Heimerdinger, Soraka, and Warwick all have in common?

They were all considered UPed trash when I started playing this game in May.

You know what else they have in common?

None of them have been buffed since then.


What's your point? That they're not OP just because people didn't always think so? I don't remember people thinking any of those were bad, and I've thought they were all top-notch since May and beyond. Even if people did think so, so what? They were wrong.


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Furpop

Senior Member

07-21-2010

Quote:
Beoftw:
oh thats right, because the real problem is that WE have to base our champ selections around the all mighty guy who picks shaco first. oh thats the greatest fix ive ever heard.
you are suppose to base your items on the other teams composition if you see a shaco get wards and if he is giving you guys problem get Oracles. Easy cheap counter to a shaco now if the shaco is still raping you its because you suck not because hes op


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gunblob

Junior Member

07-21-2010

Quote:
Uccisore:
You know what Shaco, Heimerdinger, Soraka, and Warwick all have in common?

They were all considered UPed trash when I started playing this game in May.

You know what else they have in common?

None of them have been buffed since then.


iirc flash and decieve was buffed to pop incoming projectile, and soon after Shaco OP threads started to pop up.