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Assassins on Dominion

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rock ant13

Member

01-28-2012

Are they any good? When i play the assassins suck even talon.


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iProbie

Senior Member

01-28-2012

assassins that rely on their cds are meh at best
if the enemy survives your initial burst, has decent lifesteal or spellvamp and your spells are on cooldowns, you're ****ed


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Prometheius

Senior Member

01-28-2012

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iProbie:
assassins that rely on their cds are meh at best
if the enemy survives your initial burst, has decent lifesteal or spellvamp and your spells are on cooldowns, you're ****ed


This. IF you're an assassin who can't finish killing someone over inside 4 seconds, you're gonna get gibbed.

All mages will have 2.4k HP minimum by lvl 18, if they're any good. Very few burst assassins can guarantee that much damage by that point.


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Shaxtenn

Senior Member

01-29-2012

All assassins are fantastic on Dominion. Name an assassin who is bad. Assassins have burst, mobility, and 1v1 potential against basically anyone but a built bruiser.

List of the champs Riot calls assassins:

Ahri
Akali
Eve
Fizz
Irelia
Kassadin
Kat
LeBlanc
Lee Sin
Nocturne
Pantheon
Poppy
Shaco
Talon
TF
Vayne
Xin Zhao

TF is the only questionable one there, and he isn't an assassin so much as a mage/ranged AD with a teleport ult. The rest are fantastic. That's basically a laundry list of the must-ban OP champs on Dominion, excluding bot lane pusher mages.


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LordJerichoSwain

Senior Member

01-29-2012

Quote:
Shaxtenn:
All assassins are fantastic on Dominion. Name an assassin who is bad. Assassins have burst, mobility, and 1v1 potential against basically anyone but a built bruiser.

List of the champs Riot calls assassins:

Ahri
Akali
Eve
Fizz
Irelia
Kassadin
Kat
LeBlanc
Lee Sin
Nocturne
Pantheon
Poppy
Shaco
Talon
TF
Vayne
Xin Zhao

TF is the only questionable one there, and he isn't an assassin so much as a mage/ranged AD with a teleport ult. The rest are fantastic. That's basically a laundry list of the must-ban OP champs on Dominion, excluding bot lane pusher mages.


idk why ez isn't on that list, love playing him as ap assassin ;d.


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MVpmack

Senior Member

01-29-2012

Kat is pretty bad on Dominion. Worse than SR, where she's generally considered unviable by top players.

Most of the other assassin champs are ridiculously powerful. If you take Riot's list of "assassins," Vayne (who isn't an assassin) does poorly due to her nerfs.


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Madkuntt

Senior Member

01-29-2012

As per OPs orignal message, Talon can rip **** in Dom. Just got to know his mechanics inside and out.


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iProbie

Senior Member

01-29-2012

I don't know, seen a lot of assassins like last game, where a fully built talon did not deal enough burst to kill our fully built MF + thornmail in single hit and when his stealth is down, MF rapes back with uber lifesteal from sanguine


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Xanthic

Senior Member

01-29-2012

Yes, Talon sucks and you should never play him. Only assassin TF is viable.


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Melvear

Senior Member

01-29-2012

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Xanthic:
Yes, Talon sucks and you should never play him. Only assassin TF is viable.


Not sure if you're trolling or if you're serious. Talon is a fantastic character and he deals massive damage to anyone but full tank, and even those you can counter with just a Last Whisper. His ult is in a short enough cooldown that it's pretty much up for every fight, allowing you either a surprise entrance or a safe exit.

You do need 40% cdr though, and that holds true for most assassins imo, as they do in fact rely on their abilities to kill people and not so much their auto attacks (obviously even truer for AP assassins).

As for Kat, she's a great champion on Dom, but not so much in blind pick. You want her against a poorly built team. What I mean by that is a team that has little to no hard CC. It's surprising how many champions don't have anything but a slow or a snare in their kit, and neither of those will help against Kat. You need a stun or a suppress, and you need to save it for her, which in turn helps her teammates act more freely.

All in all, assassins are fantastic characters in Dom, but you have to consider team balance when picking them. An all assassins team may sound great on paper but without anyone to deal sustained damage or anyone being able to take a beating, you'll end up killing your targets and dying as well, either to a tower hit or minions as you try to cap or something equally stupid.


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