Did I cost us the game?

Yes 32/7/7 with Twitch is a poor performance 3 8.57%
No 32/7/7 with Twitch is acceptable carry numbers 10 28.57%
Yes you cost Corki, therefore you cost your team 1 2.86%
No - you lost for some other reason, but who really cares 21 60.00%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

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RealWolf M

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01-23-2012

yeah, I wouldn't expect a corki and a twitch on the same team at my level though... bit stupid


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Yaladilae

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01-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Vastatio Tactics View Post
If you look the opposing team was HP stacking and had no AR thus a Last Whisper would of been a waste while the Kitae countered there HP stacking something another PH wouldn't do near as well.
lets remind yourself of the Movement speed on PD

Also with 30% extra Crtical chance, you should have entered the zone where you can hit 700+ every crtical (with that build you had)

Kitae on a 4k hp champion hits only 100 magic damage (and did anyone even reach 4k?)
Yes you still critical, but you loose 30% chance from PD, which averages out to be 130 damage per hit. And the fact that AD deals more then Magic damage because of the higher arm pen on Crystal Scar aura (and possibly your mastery of having only the arm pen line)

Sorry about the last whisper, but if they build armor to counter you, that was an option
And I am at work so did not view the screenshot and have time to examine every detail


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XaoGarrent

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01-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Vastatio Tactics View Post
I would have to have seen the entire game from start to finish however I would say ultimately what lost you the game was the champion selection as you had no hard cc (non-slows) to speak of.

That aside that Jax build is a bit odd for the remake and Black Cleaver on Corki when the other team is HP stacking is questionable as well when compared to other items you could buy with 2865 since his Gatling Gun at that point would eliminate most if not all there AR assuming ArP runes. Your build was a pretty much spot on good counter-build against them.
This, pretty much.

The only other thing I'll say, is that even with Dominion's fast inherent gold gain it will still benefit you as a player to learn to occasionally feed your team kills where possible, if you're already doing good. As an AD DPS Carry, your kill score IS allowed to be higher than your teammates, but everyone can use a bit of extra gold.

All in all though, you or someone else on your team seriously needs to learn to pick better. I'm gonna go with someone else, because I can't see any reason why you should ever have Vlad and Cass on the same team. One of those really should have been another mage with better CC. Corki and Twitch is almost as bad, but at least they both cover enough ground that you don't end up with complete dead weight on your team.


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lbgsloan

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01-23-2012

Looks like you had nobody on your team who could hold a point. Let me guess how the game went: your team went in, you picked off kills, everyone died but you, you cap, b, enemy team retakes the point. Meanwhile Yorick kept taking bot because nobody gave bot proper support (ie ganking BEFORE he takes the point). You can't win with 5 carries, you need someone who can initiate and defend. Also, as pointed out no cc whatsoever. This is a perfect example of what happens when people play who they want instead of complimenting the team.


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VhakulaKhaulepi

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01-23-2012

You know the answer.


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urmamasllama

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01-23-2012

it looks like you starved you teammates of gold by taking all of those kills


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TEEAHMAT TOOSDEY

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01-23-2012

everytime the porn thing is in a web browser, I can't decide if they honestly forgot or if it is a troll


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Seemseasy

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01-23-2012

Sorry Corki said something mean to you.

Honestly I would be looking at Jax out of anyone for a few reasons. Firstly his score ratios compared with rest of team, secondly because lots people are picking new Jax thinking he is comparable to old Jax-- not true, so they do poorly.


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K J

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01-23-2012

lol, Nulix. I noticed that too.

Like others have said starving your team of gold isn't the best strategy, but that isn't likely to have caused your loss. Looking at the high kill counts and very high cap/neut counts, I can safely assume that your team was getting backdoored and losing bot constantly. I imagine your team also overreacted and sent 3-4 champs bot/mid in order to recap instead of just 1-2.

As the player with the most kills, least deaths, and most neutralizes (and almost the most captures), you probably didn't do your duty in preventing captures. Twitch makes for a great defender, and you obviously didn't have issues killing the enemy team.


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crzymdscntst

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01-24-2012

At a guess, not defending bot as well as pushing top or the reverse is what lost that game.

It's Twitch's fault no matter what he does, didn't you know that? Just like picking Eve means you'll lose. ~sarcasm~

Because you're playing a champion who's been nerfed into the dumps, there is a high likelyhood someone will blame you, even if it's their own fault for not doing what they needed to do and being where they needed to be. Your point capture scores are really the important part here. Your Jax also had enough Martyr scores to bloat his score too it looks like, otherwise Corki likely would be ahead of him.

Your score is also about 800 above the next person on your team and about 600 above the next enemy score. You did more than your part.

EDIT: Though having your team get assists if not kills really helps them from falling behind. Don't capture a point while a teamfight is happening just over Ye Ol' Ridge, let your team help capture a point and more gold will be had.


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