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Been playing Ryze lately

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Better Ban J4

Senior Member

01-22-2012

What is the best build for him and who does he counter?

I know the ArchAngel's staff is a must but what else should I get on him?


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Deatvert

Senior Member

01-22-2012

AA is not a must on him. Tear is a must, as is frozen heart and BV. Build him tanky, since his abilities scale with mana. His AP ratios are mediocre, so upgrading the Tear to AA tends to be the last thing you do.


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slapdat

Junior Member

01-22-2012

yea. open boots 3 pots and upgrade to sorc shoes. get 2-3 drings depending on early game. get tear as soon as you can. go frozen heart/bv early. then get some typical ap items depending on the situation(deathcap, void staff, crystal scepter, abysal etc. sell off your drings to finish off your build dependingon enemies with those items. then turn your tear into an AA


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Better Ban J4

Senior Member

01-22-2012

So really the more mana the better?


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Carados

Senior Member

01-22-2012

Yep. There's only a few AP items you can justify on Ryze, and those are RoA, WotA, and Void Staff.


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ikillutwice

Senior Member

01-22-2012

First get the mana then defensive items so that u stay alive long enough to spam ur spells. Doesn't matter how much damage you do if u have tiny range and die before u can use it


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Junksie

Recruiter

01-22-2012

You generally want to start out with mana regen early game (as in, only the first item you buy), then build mana items (tear of the goddess, frozen heart, banshee's, RoA) early-mid game. There aren't too many good mana items in the game, so you may want to finish off with a Rabadon's because two of your abilities still scale off AP, and AA staff and Rabadon's work well together. Then again, you could always go for something more tanky instead of a rabadon's, which is almost just as good of a choice. Maybe even a zhonya's, for the Active.
EDIT: His overload does also scale off AP, so a Rabadon's isn't that bad. Just with an AA and a Rabadon's, not including the AA bonus from other mana items, that's an additional 70 damage for your overload.


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Mambazo

Senior Member

01-22-2012

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slapdat:
yea. open boots 3 pots and upgrade to sorc shoes. get 2-3 drings depending on early game. get tear as soon as you can. go frozen heart/bv early. then get some typical ap items depending on the situation(deathcap, void staff, crystal scepter, abysal etc. sell off your drings to finish off your build dependingon enemies with those items. then turn your tear into an AA


Please do not listen to this person.

Manacrystal+2pots
boots/tear
catalyst/sorc shoes
glacial shroud
banshee's veil
frozen heart
upgrade tear to AA
Void Staff
If the game isn't over at this point, you can build a Will of the Ancients to up your spellvamp, or RoA for the biggest bump in your damage you can get at this point, or Lich Bane for some MR/Movespeed/Modest tower pushing ability.

This is pretty much the only way to build ryze.


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Rg Toad

Senior Member

01-22-2012

Depends on runes and masteries and what buffs you are getting but, general **** is boots x3 health potions, or management regen item,

Then rush tears, from there EVERYTHING is situational, though if you have some left over $$ generally get a management crystal since it can build both into a BV, or the glacial, and junk.

From there it just goes off of counter building what your opponents have and what your team needs magic pen can be good, or a RoA is always useful


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kaleb bartlett

Senior Member

01-22-2012

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slapdat:
yea. open boots 3 pots and upgrade to sorc shoes. get 2-3 drings depending on early game. get tear as soon as you can. go frozen heart/bv early. then get some typical ap items depending on the situation(deathcap, void staff, crystal scepter, abysal etc. sell off your drings to finish off your build dependingon enemies with those items. then turn your tear into an AA


building ap on ryze is a bad idea. If you read is abilitys at all you would know why.


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