Doing the math for 738AP.

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Tikkameni

Junior Member

10-10-2009

I tried doing the math and it didn't add up.
Factoring in talents and item bonus's and doing the equation in all possible ways:
result 1: 636.97
result 2: 641.90
(there were other results showing similar numbers)

Just to be clear:
-talents can provide +10 AP,+10.80AP(.60 per level) and +2%AP (bonus +2%AP at lvl 18).
-items alone are giving 473AP

So 473AP is the starting number and i added the bonus AP from ignite and archmage savvy because those are static values. Then in multiple different orders I added the % AP bonus's.
I couldn't figure out how this player was getting that amount of AP, it seems I come short just about 100AP almost every time. No Baron buff is or was present.

Help please. =)


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Tikkameni

Junior Member

10-10-2009

What is the MAX AP you can gain from runes?


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Highborne

Senior Member

10-10-2009

100 Zonia's
140 Mejaj
80 Rod of Ages
80 Lich Bane
40 Blasting Rod
33 Sorc Boots
78 Runes

That is 551 before Zonia's or 4% masteries.

716.3 is total with no ignite mastery or the tier 1 offensive.

738 would mean he went 1 into the Ignite mastery and 2 into the AP talent.


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Tikkameni

Junior Member

10-10-2009

So basically i didn't factor in the runes.


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Khrane

The Council

10-10-2009

While on the topic, what's the sheer maximum AP you can attain?

I suppose there's

100 Zhonya's
140x5 Mejai's
78 runes

=878

Then 18*.6=11 from tier 1 talent, and 10 from Ignite=899.

So without potions or Baron buff, that's 899x1.25x1.04=1169.

Not sure if I'm putting this in the right order, but...

I believe the potion caps at 65, and Baron buff is 60.

So 899+60+65= 1024x1.25x1.04= 1331

Add that to Absolute Zero, the highest AP ratio in the game (IIRC, it's 3.5 ATM)

750+1331x3.5= 5409

My math could be very wrong, but... damn.


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Lollerman

Senior Member

10-10-2009

Mejaj doesn't stack, but Archangels do.


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ERazER

Senior Member

10-11-2009

Yeah, max is 5 Archangel's and a ring.


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plasmatorture

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10-11-2009

Obviously Veigar is necessary for max AP

1x Zhonya's
5x Archangel's

that's 2500 extra mp, plus his 1185 base, is 3685. Does Archangel's unique have a cap? I'm going to assume it's 600 like Tear, but I could be wrong. So 4285 mana.

You get a base 325 AP from the items, 78 from runes, 10.8 from masteries, 10 from Ignite, 428.5 from your archangel's, 65 from potion, 60 from baron. Veigar could theoretically gain 1 AP/4 seconds in a match, but let's say you're only doing 1/10 seconds on average given time running around and whatnot. After 30 minutes, that's 180 AP.

So before Z's ring, that's 1157.3 AP. After Z's unique, you've got 1446.625 AP.


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TiberiusAudley

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10-11-2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by plasmatorture View Post
After Z's unique, you've got 1446.625 AP.
You left off the 4% from the Defensive Mastery tree,

1492.917 AP...and that's assuming no one on their team is near you.


Let's assume there's a combined total of 400 AP on the enemy team near Veigar at that point.

1257.3 * 1.29 = 1621.917


And that's with a conservative estimate of the enemy team. Veigar actually gets *MORE* benefit out of the entire enemy team having Baron and being nearby than he does from having Baron Buff himself.

It may be possible for a Veigar with this setup to break 2000 AP in a team fight.


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Andrewsm

Senior Member

10-11-2009

.....omfg nerf nao
/caps
sorry i took away from all the constructive talk ;/


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