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[Game] Vayne's ult ignores teemo's blind

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ACookieMonster

Senior Member

12-09-2011

priority: medium

Reproc steps:

1) vayne ults
2) teemo blinds her
3) vayne kills teemo while still blind, with autoattacks.

didn't check if this applied without ult.


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Persiaan

Member

12-09-2011

Silver Bolts?


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ACookieMonster

Senior Member

12-09-2011

Quote:
Persiaan:
Silver Bolts?


vayne was doing autoattack damage, and the silver bolts were counting too.


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Zhico

Senior Member

12-11-2011

blind's and dodge should not apply silver bolts so its clearly a bug


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NoobxInxBlue

Senior Member

12-11-2011

it's vayne ult why would it apply? that'd make teemo op against vayne.


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Bequanda

Senior Member

12-11-2011

That has nothing to do with Vayne's Ult, it's just her W, Silver Bolts.
And what you described also happens on the live server.


First off, the Facts:

"Blinding Dart - Obscures an enemy's vision with a powerful venom, dealing damage to the target unit and causing all attacks to miss for the duration.
Deals 80/125/170/215/260 (+0.8) magic damage and causes the target to miss all of their attacks for 1.5/1.75/2/2.25/2.5 seconds.

Cost - 70/80/90/100/110 Mana
Range - 680
"

"Silver Bolts - Vayne tips her bolts with a rare metal, toxic to evil things. The third consecutive attack or ability against the same target deals a percentage of the target's maximum Health as bonus true damage. (Max: 200 damage vs. Monsters)
Vayne tips her bolts with a rare metal, toxic to evil things. The third consecutive attack or ability against the same target deals an additional 20/30/40/50/60 plus 4/5/6/7/8% of the target's maximum Health as true damage. (Max: 200 damage vs. Monsters)

Cost - Passive
Range - 750
"



So, as you can see, Vayne's W does True Damage on the third consecutive attack.
Now, the League of Legends Wikipedia states this about True Damage:

"True damage is one of the three types of damage in League of Legends, the others being magic damage and physical damage. True damage ignores armor and magic resistance.
[...] and both true damage as an on-hit effect and true damage on standard attack are capable of being avoided completely if the standard attack is dodged.
"


So, logically seen, there is no problem with Vayne's Silver Bolts hitting Teemo even when blinded, because her attacks missed, so Teemo didn't get to dodge them, and the True Damage after the third shot applies.


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Pentarctagon

Senior Member

12-11-2011

how is missing from dodging different from missing due to blinds? A miss is a miss.


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Bequanda

Senior Member

12-11-2011

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Pentarctagon:
how is missing from dodging different from missing due to blinds? A miss is a miss.


Silver Bolts apllies one stack every attack, meaning, even if it misses. It doesn't really matter, if the attack does damage or not.

If Teemo dodged Vayne's attacks instead, then the Silver Bolts wouldn't apply from the start.

The way to avoid the true damage is only through dodging, meaning, with a bit luck from Ninja Tabi, but who would buy them on Teemo?


Missing an attack and dodging an attack is normally the same, but not in this game, because it has a Dodge System (will be removed soon though), so the words have a different meaning.


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ACookieMonster

Senior Member

12-11-2011

Quote:
Bequanda:
So, logically seen, there is no problem with Vayne's Silver Bolts hitting Teemo even when blinded, because her attacks missed, so Teemo didn't get to dodge them, and the True Damage after the third shot applies.


You see, there is no problem indeed with the silver bolts applying to teemo even when vayne's blinded, the problem is vayne NOT missing ANY of the shots when under the effect of blindness, she didn't only deal damage from the third shot but from ALL the auto attacks that should have missed.

So, following this logic i'd say it's a bug.


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TuckTuckTuck

Member

12-11-2011

Vayne's ult makes her unaffected by blinds.


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