Ryze counters?

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Warrrrax

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12-07-2011

Frozen Heart doesn't really counter AD champs. Its a -500gold worth of AS aura, and a lot of armor. An AD champ with some lifesteal and a negatron cloak is usually enough to defeat Ryze. Especially as they will have a last whisper and defeat almost 50% of the armor.

You will get snared for 2 seconds after you engage, which you can either quicksilver/cleanse out of or just re-engage. Ryze isn't all that fast and when you charged, you got off an autoattack and slowed him with mallet right?

Then it is simply a matter of beating him to death. Lifesteal is pretty important though. Without it, his low cooldowns ensure that his mini-comboes afterwards will kill you. Plus he regens a bit of life himself from his own spell vamp.


Ryze has 675 range, so anyone who can poke away at longer ranges like Morgana, lux, Kog, etc can do well against him.

As mentioned, Ryze will ALWAYS boost armor thru Shroud and probably Heart. But won't necessarily have MR. Stupid Ryzes will finish Heart before even getting a negatron! Even after that its 180 armor, vs 80 MR. A smart ryze will get another negatron and work on an Abyssal. Most won't though.

Burst n run works too. Ryze's burst is a Q,E,Q at 675...needs 625 range to do the full combo and that requires that you stay in his range.
So if you move in, Drop a huge burst, then get out, you can beat Ryze.


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IMSOJUICY

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12-07-2011

someone with better range than him.

very hard to beat a ryze when he lands his snare on you.


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Hugs From Momma

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12-07-2011

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Originally Posted by Warrrrax View Post
As mentioned, Ryze will ALWAYS boost armor thru Shroud and probably Heart. But won't necessarily have MR. Stupid Ryzes will finish Heart before even getting a negatron! Even after that its 180 armor, vs 80 MR. A smart ryze will get another negatron and work on an Abyssal. Most won't though.
Or just build Merc treads, Odyns, and Mres / level runes for 135 MR with masteries.

Few targets build significant Mres, and those that do (tanks) you shouldn't be targeting anyways. If someone is giving you that much trouble with resists, Guise, Abyssal and Void are there to help.

Really the best counters are built out carries that can crit him down in a few seconds.


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Forestgreen02

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12-07-2011

I do fine with Trist or cait, just make sure to get that LW early. Also to remember to never give free hits, if he hits you hit him back. Also don't ***** out, know that once you start running you already lost the fight.


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Alvinheimer

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12-07-2011

Fizz is a good counter to Ryze. As mentioned earlier, Ryze generally doesn't build have MR so Fizz will do very nice damage to him. That, including Trollvaulting to interrupt your combo, and 50% heal reduction really ruins Ryze' sustain and the usefulness of his snare.

Fizz' kit allows him to effectively trade damage with Ryze and actually come out ahead.


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DJ Swampy

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01-28-2012

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Originally Posted by Alvinheimer View Post
Fizz is a good counter to Ryze. As mentioned earlier, Ryze generally doesn't build have MR so Fizz will do very nice damage to him. That, including Trollvaulting to interrupt your combo, and 50% heal reduction really ruins Ryze' sustain and the usefulness of his snare.

Fizz' kit allows him to effectively trade damage with Ryze and actually come out ahead.
This sums it up, Fizz very strong


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KaXaSA

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01-28-2012

xerath, cass...


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Narog

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01-28-2012

Merc treads


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Doctor Tam

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01-28-2012

Skillshot champs can simply out range him.


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Tho76

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01-28-2012

I like Talon. Pops out of he shadows, with silence, then big damage + Bleed. Ult for nice damage again and Stealth. Then, slow and silence again. Done.