Twisted TreeLine 3v3 Tier List

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Luego

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12-03-2012

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I'd love to hear what two items you think those are...
Gun/rageblade?
BotRK/gun?
Trinity/gun?


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Intellectional

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12-03-2012

Recently played several matches with Singed. Yep, definitely one of the best.


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Jazman84

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12-04-2012

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Go ahead and add jax to tier darius, he literally needs two items to be gamebreaking
The thing with Darius is though is the fact he can remove a champ from a fight instantly even though they can be over 50% hp in same cases.


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Sam

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12-07-2012

Updated, Zed has some potential, but he is just far too squishy, he either builds insane glass cannon and the energy cost is terrible. If he goes a little tanky, pretty much doesn't allow him to do what his motives are, to instant-burst the carry.


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GyjYa

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12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Ottyssey View Post
Teemo feels like tier 1 right now.
Agree with this, even with only blackfire Teemo mushrooms will take 25% health.

Mushrooms mean that without oracles or lantern/sweeper you can't go in bushes or jungle, or else you drop 25% or more of your health.

Even if you have oracles, you still can't reliably check bushes. And not checking bushes means that you can get jumped on in the jungle or lane with impunity.

Teemo just offers insane map control. A fed Teemo can literally zone the entire enemy team completely out of their own jungle and out of all bushes. I see him banned all the time in ranked, and he just dominates blind pick.

edit: And I don't think Mundo is tier 1, there's too many ways to shut him down:

-BotRK
-Executioner's Calling
-Ignite


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Realyst

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12-08-2012

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Agree with this, even with only blackfire Teemo mushrooms will take 25% health.

Mushrooms mean that without oracles or lantern/sweeper you can't go in bushes or jungle, or else you drop 25% or more of your health.

Even if you have oracles, you still can't reliably check bushes. And not checking bushes means that you can get jumped on in the jungle or lane with impunity.

Teemo just offers insane map control. A fed Teemo can literally zone the entire enemy team completely out of their own jungle and out of all bushes. I see him banned all the time in ranked, and he just dominates blind pick.

edit: And I don't think Mundo is tier 1, there's too many ways to shut him down:

-BotRK
-Executioner's Calling
-Ignite
You can't really shut Mundo down completely; it's like claiming Singed and Nunu aren't useful because you can shut them down too. Mundo's job is a team support/tank, not a carry, so shutting him down isn't really relevant. He's there to be a CC bot (offensively and defensively) and tank turret shots, which he does very well regardless of how behind he might be. Build all tank items and health and your cleavers still do great % based hp damage. He makes a great total counter to many kitable champions as well, such as Shyvanna, Udyr, Singed, Xin, etc. His ultimate is only a 50s cd, whereas Ignite is a 3.5 minute cd now.


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Sam

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12-09-2012

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Originally Posted by GyjYa View Post
Agree with this, even with only blackfire Teemo mushrooms will take 25% health.

Mushrooms mean that without oracles or lantern/sweeper you can't go in bushes or jungle, or else you drop 25% or more of your health.

Even if you have oracles, you still can't reliably check bushes. And not checking bushes means that you can get jumped on in the jungle or lane with impunity.

Teemo just offers insane map control. A fed Teemo can literally zone the entire enemy team completely out of their own jungle and out of all bushes. I see him banned all the time in ranked, and he just dominates blind pick.

edit: And I don't think Mundo is tier 1, there's too many ways to shut him down:

-BotRK
-Executioner's Calling
-Ignite

Who buys executioner's anyways?

Anyways... Teemo doesn't have a lot of control if you just own him in lane :P.

Constantly keep pressure in his lane with a jungler and whoever is laning against him.

I keep saying that over and over, most Teemos only put their shrooms in a certain location, for instance, the tips of the bushes and etc.

Just out think it. Don't fall for the same trick over and over. Adapt and learn. You know there might be a shroom on the tip of the bush, why not walk around it. Maybe buy a few oracles or whole team have sweepers and lanterns.

Very easy to counter a teemo if you just take him out early game and just not let him snowball whatever lane he is in.


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Sam

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12-09-2012

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The thing with Darius is though is the fact he can remove a champ from a fight instantly even though they can be over 50% hp in same cases.

That is why you remove him first in the team fight ^_^ instant burst him even if you have to blow most of your CC, spells, and summoners. It's worth it.


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GyjYa

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12-09-2012

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You can't really shut Mundo down completely; it's like claiming Singed and Nunu aren't useful because you can shut them down too. Mundo's job is a team support/tank, not a carry, so shutting him down isn't really relevant. He's there to be a CC bot (offensively and defensively) and tank turret shots, which he does very well regardless of how behind he might be. Build all tank items and health and your cleavers still do great % based hp damage. He makes a great total counter to many kitable champions as well, such as Shyvanna, Udyr, Singed, Xin, etc. His ultimate is only a 50s cd, whereas Ignite is a 3.5 minute cd now.
Mundo's strength comes from his ult. ignite + executioner's calling both cut mundo's ult in half. You can't cut singed or nunu in half like that. That's why mundo isn't tier 1.

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Who buys executioner's anyways?

Anyways... Teemo doesn't have a lot of control if you just own him in lane :P.

Constantly keep pressure in his lane with a jungler and whoever is laning against him.

I keep saying that over and over, most Teemos only put their shrooms in a certain location, for instance, the tips of the bushes and etc.

Just out think it. Don't fall for the same trick over and over. Adapt and learn. You know there might be a shroom on the tip of the bush, why not walk around it. Maybe buy a few oracles or whole team have sweepers and lanterns.

Very easy to counter a teemo if you just take him out early game and just not let him snowball whatever lane he is in.
of course tier 1 champs can be beaten. But they're still tier 1.


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cravix

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12-09-2012

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That is why you remove him first in the team fight ^_^ instant burst him even if you have to blow most of your CC, spells, and summoners. It's worth it.
But if he builds tanky that means you are focusing the tanky person while the squishy high damages are helping him out. High true damage ult that has free cooldown is op no matter how you look at it.