Power Yi vs AP Yi.

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Seenan

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11-26-2011

I'm leaning towards the power side because, even though Yi is a mana nut and can use AP, there's two wasted skills, and two improved ones...But the main sources of damage (melee attacker), and the skill contrasts.. And even the ult being the one that depends on power among all...Maybe the only AP related item that would be accepted by even a pYi, is the best tier of a spell vamp item...Which compliments your first skill, and has the partial ability of your second. :/?

It also seems as if it's in his nature. Even his first skill (passive double strike) is oriented for a slice and dice...Not some magic trick..Sure, AP is useful for healing 200 hp a tick late game, but that/AP just extends the fights (if he's being targetted/focused) and the games. Power ends them faster (if you're the carry in it, afaik and have good items from early-mid game).

AP Yi, I've never tried and personally don't want to. I'd feel so out of place as a master priest/ninja/???.

Thoughts? Discuss?


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Cenerae

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11-26-2011

AP Yi is a gimmick build. It's pretty strong early-mid game but drops off really fast late game and can be easily countered by knocking him out of meditate.

AD Yi is better for consistency's sake, but you'll want to build a little tanky if you plan on teamfighting otherwise you'll die instantly. Otherwise, he serves best as a split pusher.


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FrozenFIames

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11-26-2011

Ap yi is more teamfight orientated and some what of a butt KSer. I like AP yi cause you can at least damage the other team severely before you get cc and die and IMO does more damage overall. If you kill someone, you can do it again right after with a possibility of killing off the entire team. Lichbane and hourglass are good options to guarantee kills and survival.


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Jazz Bat

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11-26-2011

In general, you should only use AP Yi if you are going against squishy opponents.


And remember, R+Meditate


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FrozenFIames

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11-26-2011

but there's always squishy opponents XD. *stares at ap carry, ad carry, and some supports* they look delicious XD.


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Pig Magus

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11-26-2011

AP Yi is good early game, drops a bit mid and late game, and in the rare cases where you get late-late game he can be pretty strong with full CDR and Lichbane. It's a little gimmicky though.

AD Yi is super squishy, but his E makes it so you really only need to worry about Atk Spd and Crit (read: Starks/Phantom Dancers) for the first part of the game. Super squishy though, so a Frozen Impaler would be good on him.

Yi is not good on most teams, but if the rest of the team is CC heavy he could be a valuable melee tanky dps or burst mage.


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Afraa

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11-26-2011

Ap yi is not gimicky he is a current strong counter pick in some lanes and as long as you don't build him completely glass cannon you don't have to worry about being knocked out of meditate


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Seenan

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11-26-2011

While I do agree that AP can be op, it's dependent on good AP items (A +50 AP wont do much, but let's say 200 from 2-3 items makes it a lot better). AD is just...AD. Obtain damage from leveling up, E gives more damage, and R gives more speed...So what could you need? You just would need to beef up health and/or damage/crit is all. And perhaps armor/magic resist.

I find that even if squishies are on the other team, they either are Annie/someone with a shield or some other with his/her heal or tanking build. Although maybe I'm exaggerating on that.


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Cenerae

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11-26-2011

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Originally Posted by Afraa View Post
Ap yi is not gimicky he is a current strong counter pick in some lanes and as long as you don't build him completely glass cannon you don't have to worry about being knocked out of meditate
It is a gimmicky build, because he relies entirely on scoring kills to keep dealing damage in teamfights. A single, 4 target 1:1 scaling nuke pales in comparison to actual mages. Two of them is still nothing to brag about. It only begins to edge out the damage of Brand or Annie when you get a 3rd in, which means you need to score two kills in a teamfight.

No other champ is so reliant on doing this to actually perform their job properly.

And even if you don't build him like a glass cannon, if you get stunned/silenced out of meditate, you're screwed anyway.


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ForeverLaxx

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11-26-2011

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Ap yi is not gimicky he is a current strong counter pick in some lanes and as long as you don't build him completely glass cannon you don't have to worry about being knocked out of meditate
AP Yi is gimmicky. You're nothing but a walking Alpha Strike and Meditate tank. Apparently you don't understand how Meditate works if you think "building glass cannon" is how you get knocked out of Meditate. Stun, silence, forced movement, taunts... these things knock you out of Meditate, which means now you're just an Alpha Strike bot.

This is why AP Yi is a gimmick. He basically does nothing except win the lane he's in. If you can transition that into an AD build somehow, then at least your team can utilize you for something other than Alpha Strikes.


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