Lifesteal/spellvamp on Poppy

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Mordikaar

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11-13-2011

Trying to understand how lifesteal/spellvamp work with Poppy, specifically on her Q but also with her standard sheen, lichbane, or triforce.

1. Even though her Q turns even the basic attack damage magical, lifesteal works on it, right?
2. Does lifesteal or spellvamp work on the bonus magical damage on her Q?
3. Does lifesteal or spellvamp work on the bonus physical damage from Sheen or Triforce?
4. Does lifesteal or spellvamp work on the bonus magical damage from lichbane?


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Fluffy1

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11-13-2011

lifesteal works off the sheen/trinity/lichbane's damage cause it is a physical damage(they arent magical damage) add on which counts as part of your auto attack.

as for the first 2 questions, start up a bot game, buy a few lifesteal scepters and try healing off Q, replace the scepters with revolvers and see if spell vamp works, then upgrade a revolver to gunblade and see if the healing noticable changes.


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JedimasterDarren

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11-13-2011

All damage from Q is converted to magic damage, including the attack damage and lich bane/sheen/trinity.


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LotusBlossom

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11-13-2011

Both E and Q proc only spellvamp for the reason JedimasterDarren stated.
Lifesteal is not insignificant though, with the AD buff from her W and some attack-speed, especially on AD/Crit based Poppys.


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1ronLung

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11-13-2011

Quote:
lifesteal works off the sheen/trinity/lichbane's damage cause it is a physical damage(they arent magical damage) add on which counts as part of your auto attack.
really sure this is wrong. sheen-type procs trigger lifesteal because they modify the basic attack, not because they deal physical damage.

Spell vamp vs lifesteal is not a matter of the type of damage dealt: physical damage vs magic damage. so much misinformation in this thread.
damage from auto attacks and abilities that proc on-hit effects (Mf's double up and GP's Parrrley) are the only way to proc lifesteal.
damage from the use of abilities are the only way to proc spell vamp. on-hit effects that do magic damage (Madred's Bloodrrazor or Sword of the Divine) do not proc it. you will find that abilities that deal physical damage do not trigger lifesteal, like pantheon's spear. however it will trigger spell vamp.

In reference to your original question:
1. Even though her Q turns even the basic attack damage magical, lifesteal works on it, right?

The Q base damage and bonus % damage will proc spellvamp from the magic damage, since it's source was a spell. im fairly sure the sheen proc however will still trigger lifesteal.
the reason nasus' Q proc's only lifesteal is because the mechanic works in a way similar to the sheen proc, boosting the basic attack damage, not dealing damage in addition.
2. Does lifesteal or spellvamp work on the bonus magical damage on her Q?
this will proc spell vamp
3. Does lifesteal or spellvamp work on the bonus physical damage from Sheen or Triforce?
this will proc lifesteal
4. Does lifesteal or spellvamp work on the bonus magical damage from lichbane?
lifesteal. btw lich bane also deals phisical damage


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ComradeHX

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11-13-2011

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Originally Posted by JedimasterDarren View Post
All damage from Q is converted to magic damage, including the attack damage and lich bane/sheen/trinity.
Proof?

Just because they displayed the total damage in one number?


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Cenerae

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11-14-2011

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Originally Posted by ComradeHX View Post
Proof?

Just because they displayed the total damage in one number?
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Poppy_the_Iron_Ambassador

It's said here. If that's not good enough for you, read the tooltip for her Q very carefully.


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Fluffy1

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11-14-2011

sheen doesnt work like normal on hits, it can burst heal with lifesteal.

otherwise it makes no difference about damage type for spell vamp these days, as long as its damage from a spell(and not also an auto attack) then spell vamp applies to it, physical or magical, this change hapened a few months ago. youd have to check in a custom game for her Q, not sure how it interacts since unlike nasus's Q is not just a modified auto attack.