What if CDE didn't 2-0 DIG?

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TapiocaBall

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11-03-2011

If Dignitas won a single game, no one would have questioned the rules, and they would have gone to Korea right then.

What's my proof? WCG didn't question WCG Canada's result at all, despite them not playing out the two sets either. This is pretty good indicator that they really don't give a **** and won't pay attention until someone goes QQ to them. CDE would have never went up to WCG to complain because there was no mention of the double-elimination format anywhere.


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Cyprine

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11-03-2011

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You need to go read up on the incident because there was nothing that the teams agreed on.
There was an understanding that it was a best of three games with DIG having a 1 game advantage before the whole e-mail and current debate about the USA WCG thing started. Otherwise DIG wouldn't have thought that CDE had won, and they wouldn't have questioned the outcome.

However, remaining on topic, I doubt the situation would have changed much if CDE didn't 2-0 DIG aside from the current community outcry. DIG had the 1 set advantage, according to WCG, so if they went 2-0 in the set vs. CDE, they would have unquestionably went to South Korea.


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King Draxx

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11-03-2011

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You need to go read up on the incident because there was nothing that the teams agreed on.
You imbecile.
Both teams agreed upon the original WCG format rules.


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cLo

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11-03-2011

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There was an understanding that it was a best of three games with DIG having a 1 game advantage before the whole e-mail and current debate about the USA WCG thing started. Otherwise DIG wouldn't have thought that CDE had won, and they wouldn't have questioned the outcome.

However, remaining on topic, I doubt the situation would have changed much if CDE didn't 2-0 DIG aside from the current community outcry. DIG had the 1 set advantage, according to WCG, so if they went 2-0 in the set vs. CDE, they would have unquestionably went to South Korea.
.......That's exactly the purpose of this thread. If Dig had actually won a game in that set it in a best of 3 set, CDE would not have lost yet. But would DIG have taken extra effort to make sure the rules were right and give their opponent an extra chance? NO.


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cLo

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11-03-2011

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You imbecile.
Both teams agreed upon the original WCG format rules.
Then why did DIG go ask the admins if they were fine with Best of 3 games?
Why did they go ask if it was actually best of 3 set? You don't just go around begging because you lost a tournament and request that they let you play more games. They always thought it was a best of 3 set but never voiced it well enough.

God some of you. Do you understand anything? Some of you just jump into controversy and take sides without knowing the details for fun or something.


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RainCast

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11-03-2011

The rules were written down on the official website. It's not agreeing to the rules, both the teams and every other team in every other qualifier, knew these rules.

Now, for the people saying if Dignitas had won one game, it would of been 2-0. If we're going by the 'intended' rules that were changed to a 3 set of bo3, why would you give the team from the winners bracket a ONE SET, ONE GAME advantage? That absolutely makes no sense. Even if it was only 'intended' to be a one set advantage, CDE would of went in thinking they need to win basically 4/5 (not being able to lose in the first set of course).


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Cyprine

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11-03-2011

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.......That's exactly the purpose of this thread. If Dig had actually won a game in that set it in a best of 3 set, CDE would not have lost yet. But would DIG have taken extra effort to make sure the rules were right and give their opponent an extra chance? NO.
We're assuming that CDE would have even questioned the outcome of the set though, and if they would have contacted an admin with the same discussions as Dignitas did. There is a lot of assuming as to what would have happened, but there is no telling what would have happened in all reality. Could CDE have questioned it? Of course, and at most they would get one more game to determine if they were out or playing a final set of games.

There is no way of saying though. Just speculation on our parts. XD


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King Draxx

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11-03-2011

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Then why did DIG go ask the admins if they were fine with Best of 3 games?
Why did they go ask if it was actually best of 3 set? You don't just go around begging because you lost a tournament and request that they let you play more games. They always thought it was a best of 3 set but never voiced it well enough.

God some of you. Do you understand anything? Some of you just jump into controversy and take sides without knowing the details for fun or something.
Wow, you are very ignorant.
As I have already previously stated in this thread, DIG asked WCG admins because they were told that the series was supposed to be a best of 3 sets not 1.


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cLo

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11-03-2011

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The rules were written down on the official website. It's not agreeing to the rules, both the teams and every other team in every other qualifier, knew these rules.

Now, for the people saying if Dignitas had won one game, it would of been 2-0. If we're going by the 'intended' rules that were changed to a 3 set of bo3, why would you give the team from the winners bracket a ONE SET, ONE GAME advantage? That absolutely makes no sense. Even if it was only 'intended' to be a one set advantage, CDE would of went in thinking they need to win basically 4/5 (not being able to lose in the first set of course).
Why do so many people not understand what went on. I have no idea how to make you guys understand the situation if you don't already know it.

What transpired:

WCG website states that the rules are a best of 3 GAMES. This is "supposedly" outdated and because of this controversy now states that it is a best of 3 SETS.

CDE's understanding was that the Winner's Bracket advantage going into the finals was they had a 1 game advantage in a BEST OF 3 GAMES series.

CDE goes on to win 2 consecutive games thus making them the winners 2-1 in that series.

Afterwards, DIG goes to the admins to find out if the actual format is BEST OF 3 GAMES OR BEST OF 3 SET.

They get the OK from WCG that it is a BEST OF 3 SET. This made it so that CDE did not win yet and they had to play another set. DIG ends up winning the set and changing the WCG winner.




*deep breath*. Now hopefully you have some freaking understanding of the situation.

I am now saying what if, back when they THOUGHT it was a best of 3 game series with DIG having 1 game lead.....what if DIG had just won a game? In this situation DIGNITAS wins the series.

But since Dignitas already had suspicions as to whether it was a best of 3 game or a best of 3 set would they have gone on to ask to change it to a best of 3 set to allow CDE to play more games?


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cLo

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11-03-2011

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Wow, you are very ignorant.
As I have already previously stated in this thread, DIG asked WCG admins because they were told that the series was supposed to be a best of 3 sets not 1.
EXACTLY.

BECAUSE if it had been a best of 3 games not a best of 3 set they would have LOST.

CDE THOUGHT IT WAS A BEST OF 3 GAMES.

DIG THOUGHT IT WAS A BEST OF 3 SET.

What if DIG had won that BEST of 3 games series. Would they still have gone to ask admins if it was best of 3 set to allow CDE to play more games and get back into the series?

I am pretty sure if DIG did not mention a whisper to the admins they could have gotten away with it being a best of 3 game series because WCG CAN was played this way.


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