Mundo, still my tank.

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Leirkov

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06-14-2010

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There's automatically a problem when you're building warmog's.
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DramaticBear

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06-14-2010

Sunfire mundo is Better than this build, but to be fair, sunfire mundo is a monster if he gets 4.


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Louise

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06-14-2010

tank mundo is really a misnomer, since he's not an initiator. what he does WELL, is charge in an disrupt a fight effectively ignoring CC and being able to scare the pee outta enemy carries when he runs for them.

you can't ignore him, but if you use your damage and CC to focus him and he gets away you'll have wasted it only to see him rejoin the fight a few seconds later all healed up.

i'd put him in the same category as olaf and udyr. beefy melees that make you want to nuke them, but you really shouldn't...


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Saysay

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06-14-2010

I don't know if you want to classify my build as tanky or not but stacking HP on Mundo can be incredibly smart. Remember Mundo heals a % of his overall health with his ultimate. Therefore the more hp you have the more he heals. If you are running around with 4-5k hp and no spirit visage, his ult is going to heal 2-2.5k. That's flipping amazing. Flip the situation and he know has 2k hp. He will heal a paltry 1k. Anybody who doesn't see the benefits to stacking hp on Mundo in some situations has issues.


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Nihil Sine Nefas

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06-14-2010

You don't heal that amount in an instant. You heal that over the duration of your ult. The damage output being thrown around during endgame can easily eat through your HP plus your regen in seconds. Not to mention he can largely be ignored once you get a couple defensive items.


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Louise

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06-14-2010

that's the thing, you're not running in to take 5 people's worth of dps on you all at once. SOMEONE should be initiating or somehow staggering the flow of enemy so that you only have 2 or 3 shooting at you, which is reasonable damage to take for a short time needed to kill one of the enemy.

basically if they're killing your 4k health + regen FASTER than you're killing off whoever you guys are focusing on, you're doing it wrong. you need to re-assess your strategy and try something else


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EchoRex

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06-14-2010

OK.

Listen.

For the fifteen millionth time.

Itemizing for tanking to the near exclusion of DPS is absolutely terrible. As in AP Ashe terrible. As in you're hurting your team by picking Mundo and building him that way instead of picking a champion that can actually contribute via CC and Support from abilities while built that way.

YOU HAVE NO DAMAGE OUTPUT. Your Masochism buffed auto attacks, your bread and butter damage output, is going to be doing 200-300 damage, before armor mitigation, every 1.3 seconds. That is less than 200 DPS. Your Cleaver spam is reduced by magic resist. You will be doing minimal damage with this late game if the team bought nothing more defensive than Merc Treads. Burning Agony... as damage... stab yourself in the ********s/ovaries so you can't pass on the bad at math gene.

YOU HAVE NO APPRECIABLE CC. Cleaver snare sucks for anything but chasing a single person, and that is if you are very proficient and can land it almost every single toss. You have nothing to force opponents to fight you. You have nothing to keep opponents from damaging your allies.

YOU ARE COMPLETELY IGNORABLE. You have no damage output. You have no appreciable CC. You are extremely hard to kill. What exactly in those makes someone want to target you instead of your teammates? You know, OTHER than your hopes and fantasies?

Get. A. Clue.

The only thing approaching a "Tank" Mundo is one who is dealing such high damage that the other team MUST target you first or you kill their damage champions before they can kill your other damage champions.


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Louise

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06-14-2010

PURE tank mundo does about 400dps. that kills a squishy in 5 seconds. if you seriously said the above 15 million times i feel sorry for you

ignore tank mundo at your own peril, and learn how to play


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EchoRex

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06-14-2010

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PURE tank mundo does about 400dps. that kills a squishy in 5 seconds.
BEFORE ARMOR AND MAGIC RESIST.

Hi, try now taking 10 seconds to kill that squishy. If he stands still and lets you.

Hi, look how the entire teamfight is over before you finished killing that one squishy.

Hi, learn to play.

You're bad and you should feel bad.


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Pwnacus Maximus

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06-14-2010

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Originally Posted by Echo7 View Post
OK.

Listen.

For the fifteen millionth time.

Itemizing for tanking to the near exclusion of DPS is absolutely terrible. As in AP Ashe terrible. As in you're hurting your team by picking Mundo and building him that way instead of picking a champion that can actually contribute via CC and Support from abilities while built that way.

YOU HAVE NO DAMAGE OUTPUT. Your Masochism buffed auto attacks, your bread and butter damage output, is going to be doing 200-300 damage, before armor mitigation, every 1.3 seconds. That is less than 200 DPS. Your Cleaver spam is reduced by magic resist. You will be doing minimal damage with this late game if the team bought nothing more defensive than Merc Treads. Burning Agony... as damage... stab yourself in the ********s/ovaries so you can't pass on the bad at math gene.

YOU HAVE NO APPRECIABLE CC. Cleaver snare sucks for anything but chasing a single person, and that is if you are very proficient and can land it almost every single toss. You have nothing to force opponents to fight you. You have nothing to keep opponents from damaging your allies.

YOU ARE COMPLETELY IGNORABLE. You have no damage output. You have no appreciable CC. You are extremely hard to kill. What exactly in those makes someone want to target you instead of your teammates? You know, OTHER than your hopes and fantasies?

Get. A. Clue.

The only thing approaching a "Tank" Mundo is one who is dealing such high damage that the other team MUST target you first or you kill their damage champions before they can kill your other damage champions.
I couldn't have said it better myself. /thread.

topic over, time to go home folks.