BFT needs to be changed

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TechPrince

Senior Member

03-12-2014

This item is op as hell on every AP caster.

Suggested Changes :
1) Removal of free movement speed. Move it to sweeper. (This is must)
2) Increased cooldown to 90secs and/or 15% max hp damage, 15% damage increase on same cd.

Unleash your downvotes AP casters !


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stormfallen

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Senior Member

03-12-2014

I would suggest just making it a direct DFG analog, adding another blasting rod/amp tome to the recipe and changing combine cost accordingly.


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Rebonack

Senior Member

03-12-2014

BFT warps the game with its mere existence. It allows high-burst champions to annihilate even tanky targets relatively easily.

Just get rid of the thing. Seriously. Then add some new 10% CDR AP options.


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Penteano

Senior Member

03-12-2014

Remove the bonus move speed. Seriously most people using it are ranged mages, you shouldn't give bonus speed for those people IMO. The melee ones will have higher base MS anyway.
Active with 15% damage increase and 15% hp damage on 90 second cd. And make it no stack with damages that are already increased like Ahri's E and LB Mimic


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AK47WOLF

Senior Member

03-12-2014

It is overpowered.

But AP lacks the trinity scaling mechanic of AD. The Crit/Lifesteal/Damage relationship. They all scale each other.

Until that is addressed, AP items get to be broken.


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Nexus Crawler

Senior Member

03-12-2014

Mmmm spell crit nidalee spears. So smexy!

Seriously tho. Yeah APC has mid game power at the cost of some late game where ADC has the cost of early/mid for a lot of late game. While some sort of ability to scale as well as an ADC would be cool Mage roles would need a lot of tweeking for it to become as "balanced" as ADC power.


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TechPrince

Senior Member

03-12-2014

Quote:
Originally Posted by AK47WOLF View Post
It is overpowered.

But AP lacks the trinity scaling mechanic of AD. The Crit/Lifesteal/Damage relationship. They all scale each other.

Until that is addressed, AP items get to be broken.
There is no item that gives all these three stats in one. But BFT gives AP, CD, MS, 20% damage boost which is kind of an alternative to MPen eventually giving everything in one item.

On the other hand, its AD variant BOTRK doesnt have crit to make up that holy trinity and yet it has 90sec cd and does 15% max hp damage which is less than 20% from BFT.


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TheUnseeingOne

Junior Member

03-12-2014

Yes BFT is broken.

Removing or nerfing it does not fix the problem however, it just makes bruisers even stronger. There are a lot of relatively niche picks that really only work because BFT gives them mid-game power. If you want to nerf BFT, balance champions first.


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wolferer

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03-12-2014

I wish people would talk about BFT in relation to DFG. Do you also think DFG is an overpowered item? Because it too has AP, CDR, and damage boost. If BFT was replaced by DFG would it still be a problem?

The difference is the movement speed and the lower price point.

Personally I think BFT is a strong item, but I don't think it's worthy of the scorn it currently gets. I think the MS is a little gratuitous and would like to see Twin Shadows be the niche MS item, but you do pay for it in BFT, it's not something free like it was on the old sweeper.


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Nexus Crawler

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03-12-2014

Heh remember when we actually had DFG and practically no one bought it?


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