Karma: Underpowered, or underused?

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Sykper

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09-22-2011

On the contrary, I believe she is sleeper OP status...

certainly, she is not popular, and hard to place on teams, but her utility and capability to get fed and carry games is very high.

I think that when people describe her as half AP/ half support it is quite off since she excels at both roles, there is no 'half power' support or 'half power AP carry' in Karma.


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Carados

Senior Member

09-22-2011

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Originally Posted by BloodsHaven View Post
well ill be around til everyone has fought a "good karma" an when people rally behind a nerf banner u cant say i didn't tel u so.

1. any melee will instantly loose to karma hands down they cant farm due to the barriers OP range.

2 any melee paired with karma for example jax will rofl stomp the double burst an free harassment (because the barrier gives free hp as they move back to a safer position)
Both of these read "The enemy's jungler will be camping your lane."


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BloodsHaven

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09-22-2011

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Both of these read "The enemy's jungler will be camping your lane."
Who doesn't put wards up when their wining the lane by a huge margin. To think the jungle wouldn't come would be a naive miss perception.

if u have only seen pub karma i can understand where ur comeing from but premade is a whole diffident story. Pair her with Lee sin, JAx, Taric, Sion, Xin zhoa, katarina, garin, etc etc. anyone with a "gap closer" an lane control is easy peezy. u can basicaly smack thier tower as melee an if the opponent gets close they get smack by her barrier its currently op.


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Carados

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09-22-2011

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Who doesn't put wards up when their wining the lane by a huge margin. To think the jungle wouldn't come would be a naive miss perception.
You're bad at the game if you think wards means you'll never get ganked. Seriously. It takes four wards to block off every gank path to a single lane.

In addition to that, there are many champions who can traverse the distance required over a ward's vision faster then you can can run from to your tower. Those are called "Junglers."


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BloodsHaven

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09-22-2011

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You're bad at the game if you think wards means you'll never get ganked. Seriously. It takes four wards to block off every gank path to a single lane.

In addition to that, there are many champions who can traverse the distance required over a ward's vision faster then you can can run from to your tower. Those are called "Junglers."
your being way too specific were speakin in general the OPness or UPness of karma.

in general a ward in the river will prevent u from geting ganked 80% of the time and that a varible im willing to trust.

an like said before to ignore the fact a jungle wouldnt come to a pushed lane is jus being dumb (another words it can be accommodated for).

edit: it realy jus takes 1 at the intersection that will show people coming in the side lane bush and the adjacent tower bush


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Trivial Pursuit

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09-22-2011

She fits into the same category as Kayle. i.e. half carry / half support. You pick her to use her as an ap carry who can also support. She does not fit into the same role as a Janna, Sona, or Soraka.

And she's underused i've never played with or against a bad Karma and i've won games with a Karma carrying the whole team. This doesn't mean she is easy to play, just that good players pick her as a fun challenge with big upside.


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BloodsHaven

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09-22-2011

i do suspect that this champ is truely balanced because no one can say shes useless but no one can say she untouchable status.

From my experiences of playing premades with karma we come out of the lane with positive creep score/kills this in turn gives me the perception that she is over powered threw the rest of the game. Her abilitys tend to give her more of a chance of being "fed" and also ensure her safety. Any balanced champ when fed should always be OP even soraka (lol). yes creep scores count as being fed


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KkerrLegends

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09-22-2011

Shes both, I play her a lot but im not saying this becouse i want her buffed, i think she underpowered couse her mantra stacks go away very fast. I think Riot should make her gain 3 mantra stacks at lvl 7 and 4 at lvl 13, or sth like that


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BrotherCaine

Senior Member

09-22-2011

She can often wreck a duo melee bot.


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anu mara

Senior Member

09-22-2011

Is a fun char that is pretty to watch if you know what's happening. No one ever knows what's happening with her.

from my playing her she is literally designed to turn tables. whether a gank, team fight, a random push(insane movement speed), or similar. when it's normally just easier to take an easy champion and still be effective and have easier lines of communication.

Character is designed for her and partners to keep "cool" under any condition. which isn't viable unless you have people who are willing to play lots of games with her(when there or plenty of other characters that you can just swap in and out).

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I have gotten more sincere OMG I love you with karma than any other support.


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