An Objective Analysis of Why JAX is OP

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KungPaoChicken

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05-28-2010

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Originally Posted by Vize View Post
Ya my bad, really sucks that Jax GAINS HP from INCREASING HIS DAMAGE on a 3HP:1AD ratio with an already insane dodge%. Jax's armor is his dodge and Phantom Dancer fits that bill nicely while simultaneously increasing his damage output.

Ryze is vulnerable after his initial alpha, Veigar is really only scary late late game. Jax basically wrecks people level 6+ and can sustain his damage/tanking ability well beyond the initial engagement. There is a big difference.
it sounds like ur just crying about something because u cant deal with it.

HP with no armor and MR makes u a big stick of butter, and he cant dodge when hes stunned or when someone has a sword of the divine, only thing to be considered is that if ur team mates are fighting him and will proc his dodge, but even then theres more than 1 of you and this shouldnt be an issue.

Theres certain ways to initiate fights with certain champs and if u dont know how then ur going to lose. skill up.


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Carados

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05-28-2010

Hint: Armor and MR are effectively worthless at this point because of the abundance of Magic Pen/Armor Pen runes and Void Staff and Last Whisper.


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KungPaoChicken

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05-28-2010

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Hint: Armor and MR are effectively worthless at this point because of the abundance of Magic Pen/Armor Pen runes and Void Staff and Last Whisper.

wow thats a joke lol


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Carados

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05-28-2010

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wow thats a joke lol
Yeah man, that's a joke, which is exactly why Armor Pen and Magic Pen are being reworked completely.


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Saucison

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05-28-2010

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You mean the same exact dodge which was unchanged when they changed him from weakest melee carry to unstoppable god a few patches back?
he still is one of the weakest melee carries, learn to fight him better.


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Xeones

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05-28-2010

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he still is one of the weakest melee carries, learn to fight him better.
Learn to troll better? Stupid lies won't get you anywhere.


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Timechild

Senior Member

05-28-2010

Lol, if you think that his dodge makes him op, you probably don't know how to play... Autoattacking jax??? Only in teamfights. Otherwise spam you abilities and wait for him to die. Since i started playing Katarina again, not one Jax has been troubling the game...


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KungPaoChicken

Senior Member

05-28-2010

armor pen and magic pen can put ur AR and MR in the red and effectively cause more damage.

not having any makes it easier to turn 40 armor into 20 and then dropping it into the negatives. having 160 armor dropping into 80 then dropping down to 40 is still armor.

so in other words tanks will still have more armor than carries and mages and thats how its suppose to be. idk why u think armor/magic pen makes armor and magic resist worthless.


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Vize

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05-28-2010

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Originally Posted by KungPaoChicken View Post
it sounds like ur just crying about something because u cant deal with it.

HP with no armor and MR makes u a big stick of butter, and he cant dodge when hes stunned or when someone has a sword of the divine, only thing to be considered is that if ur team mates are fighting him and will proc his dodge, but even then theres more than 1 of you and this shouldnt be an issue.

Theres certain ways to initiate fights with certain champs and if u dont know how then ur going to lose. skill up.
SoTD is 5 seconds of being able to avoid his dodge from probably one champion mid game+. If everyone took SoTD just to counter Jax, you all just wasted a **** ton of cash trying to get around 1 Champ and probably gimped your whole team for the rest of the game. You are also assuming there is absolutely no CC AT ALL and you get to use all 5 seconds on Jax. You also assume that Jax can't 'O' and see that your team took an item specifically to counter him. All he has to do is avoid that one champ until that champ has low HP or he can soak your 5 seconds of unmitigated attacks.

And stacking HP is a very effective all comer's defense against Magic or Physical attacks, especially when you combine it with dodge. I agree it's better to have MR or AR with your HP, but the fact that Jax is getting more HP virtually for free while increasing his damage and maintaining his high dodge percent is what makes it powerful. +100-150 AD = +300-450 Additional HP. That soaks up most of one spell ability or an attack.

It's basically like getting a free Giant's belt (1,100 gold item) after you have already spent a bunch of money making you hit like a truck.


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Wise Peaches

Junior Member

05-28-2010

You guys are all whiners. If you get one item jax is not OP. It is called SWORD OF THE DIVINE. You use that and jax doesn't get his dodge advantage. Which is probably one of the only reasons that was put in there. Quit whining and learn to play